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Engan, the Person They Named

September 8, 2010

by a friend

I wonder why, out of all the people the disgruntled swami has described in his article, only one name was mentioned.  Could this be because Ravi Shankar feels most threatened by her?  I know her personally, and it is all too clear to me why she might be considered a threat to Ravi and his organization.  She is a very capable woman, a loving person, and a good friend.  After witnessing her interactions with others, I can understand how she has been so successful in bringing so many people to the aol courses over her years of service.  Her presence inspires respect, and her words command attention.  Because of this and the fact that she was once in the aol inner circle makes her a credible witness that people will surely listen to.  So yes, it is quite understandable why Ravi might consider her dangerous, and obvious why he would want to single her out in this defamation campaign.

I am certain she is not behind this blog, and I would like to speak up in her defense.  Based on what I know of her through our interactions, and comparing this with the allegations presented in the swami’s post, I can see clear inconsistencies.  I can also see some illogical arguments made by the swami, and I feel compelled to call them out.

First, I am not a medical doctor and therefore not qualified to diagnose bipolar disorder.  My guess is, neither is the swami who has claimed she is afflicted with it.  Over the course of our friendship, I have not seen any signs of mental instability or aberrant behavior such as that described.  Regardless of whether or not she has a medical disorder, however, is a personal and confidential matter.  No matter where this information came from, I believe this constitutes a breach of confidentiality.

Second, I have never heard her once speak ill of her parents.  On the contrary, her parents have been most supportive since she left the aol cult, and have taken good care of her, as usual.  They have hosted so many aol teachers over the years, feeding them and taking care of them.  One should question the swami’s character for using them in this defamation campaign.

Third, if she actually were such an unstable, raving lunatic, as this swami describes, then why make her an aol teacher in the first place?  Why put her in the position to represent aol and to guide delicate minds on their spiritual journey?  Did Ravi not consider the course participants who might be damaged by such a teacher?  Furthermore, if she is so unstable and incapable of controlling her behavior, then how on Earth was she able to so effectively sell the aol course to so many people all over the world?

Yes, I would venture to say that this attempt to defame such a credible source is as lame as Ravi’s ploy to garner public sympathy and support from an “assassination attempt” by a stray dead bullet that was never intended for him.

But why believe anything I have to say, or for that matter, why believe the disgruntled swami, or the listed aol teachers who would support him?  I think that everyone needs to decide for themselves, based on their own experience (as I have).  Even if you do not know either party involved or have first-hand accounts, I think it is very telling that a swami, a person who is supposedly advanced on the spiritual path, has taken what was probably a lot of time and effort to produce such a long-winded document aimed at defaming and discrediting a few people, and defending against their criticism, point-by-point.  Most sane and balanced people would ignore the criticism they truly believe is baseless and without merit.  By making all this noise, Ravi’s insecurities are becoming more and more apparent.

I don’t care about what happens to the organization, but I do care for my friend who is being publicly defamed.  I am happy to report that she is doing quite well, especially since she left the organization.  As far as I know, she hasn’t had any help from anyone in aol since she left, unless you count numerous e-mail threats and now public defamation.  I would venture to guess that this is the type of aol “help” she can do without.

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39 Comments
  1. September 8, 2010 7:46 pm

    Dear PP, your language skills will be much appreciated. Please
    1) make an anonymous email account,
    2) send me a mail, on reklawyksekul@gmail.com

  2. September 8, 2010 9:26 pm

    Dear skywalker:

    I will. Thanks. Please wait for my translation.

    Sinncerely yours….pp

    • goneagain permalink
      September 9, 2010 1:34 am

      @Skywalker/PP

      Would be good to post the original as well in a separate section for reference – might be useful to seekers who can understand other languages.

  3. WhistleBlower permalink
    September 8, 2010 9:36 pm

    Dear Engan friend,
    Many thanks for your great post and speaking up for your friend. It is quite amazing how Ravi and his hand-made ex-commi Swami would attack someone like Engan who established AOL in so many countries and brought so many people to AOL. And so shameful of them to use her family and ex-boyfriends and alleged medical condition in their attack.

    It is quite revealing how Ravi and his men can attack so viciously their own teachers. And quite disgraceful of them trying to attribute Engan’s work to Beatriz Goyoaga, who I don’t think, was even around when Engan started all those countries.

    Beatriz should be ashamed of herself letting herself to be used in this manner by Ravi, just for some short term fame and glory, taking credit for someone else’s work.

    Same goes for Ignacio Escribano. Ignacio I read your post in lifestories counter-blog. Have you come to AOL for spirituality or to become Ravi’s henchman? you sure sound and act more like a henchman. I can’t see any yogi in you!

    I feel sorry for you guys, treating your ex-teacher like that. But remember, what happened to Engan, can happen to you too. One day SriSri, having used you to max, will drop you too and will get your own students to attack you. He does this often.

    You should show some courage and integrity to speak up for Engan, not to use the situation for your own short term benefit. SriSri is only using you. He is famous for using his teachers against each other and students against their own teachers.

    I leave you with Doreen’s comments in response to Sad. Swami’s vicious attack.

    http://www.kashikar.net/2010/08/the-truth-about-the-negative-blogs-%e2%80%93-by-swami-sadhyojathah/#comments
    doreen says:
    “for the record i do not agree with anyone making unsubstantiated claims against **** either. i understand people’s hurt and anger when they feel someone has falsely attacked a person they love, but our response should also have integrity.
    though i strongly disagree with what eng-an has done since deciding to leave aol, i feel compelled to set a few facts straight about her:
    – as far as i know she has never been diagnosed as bipolar
    – it’s not true that she was made a full-time teacher just out of compassion. she had a lot of fire in the belly to work for the organization. however people feel about her now, the truth is she opened art of living up in argentina, brazil, chile and many other countries in south america. there was a time when she was greatly admired for her work in aol, and was asked to speak at the TRMs about her work in south america.”

  4. Bling Bling permalink
    September 9, 2010 1:37 am

    Eng an @ MIT
    http://tech.mit.edu/V120/N7/breathing.7f.html
    Volume 120 >> Issue 7 : Tuesday, February 22, 2000

    There were three coordinators — Janael, an elegant and soft-spoken woman with a beautiful and gentle looking face and a difficult to place accent. Kamlesh, an Indian, with long curly locks and beard covering almost his entire face. Eng-An, a vivacious, pretty younger woman from Argentina, but of Asian descent, was animatedly leading the class.

    She is also listed at http://www.aoluniversity.org/contact.html
    SOUTH AMERICA
    Eng-An
    B.A Int. relations, Art of Living Instructor
    e.an@aoluniversity.org
    +5511 8174 8809

  5. Independent Observer permalink
    September 9, 2010 2:59 am

    This letter needs to make its way through the same AOL email chains that the Swami used to sow the seeds of doubt. And it will..

  6. Cam permalink
    September 9, 2010 9:11 am

    By the time I had read any blogs criticizing AoL, I had already discovered that there was a hidden agenda based on my interactions with the members, courses, etc…
    People can make up their own minds about AoL without Eng though kudos for her (if she’s ever even written a blog!) for the work she’s done as well as the other bloggers. From reading the comments on the blogs, most people have already experienced negative aspects of AoL which led them to question RS, his teachers, and the entire org. Eng is not the person to blame. They are simply grasping at straws and trying desperately to hold the organization and their reputation together.

    Cults are known for their control techniques and their rules must be followed which includes never criticizing the leader. If a member stops following the rules or speaks out against the cult, it is very common for them to be called mentally unstable. Calling the person crazy is a means for keeping them under control or to defame them in order to keep the cult together. Any question or voice of doubt will be turned around to make the doubter into the evil one. The leader will punish any followers who doubt him/her.

    This is exactly what is happening with Eng! Read The Guru Papers: Masks of Authoritarian Power by Joel Kramer and Diana Alstad. Or, simply read through stuff about cults on the internet to see the similarities with AoL.

  7. ex-Ashramite permalink
    September 9, 2010 9:25 am

    Even though Engan was the only one named in Swami Sadyojathah’s email, the other ones who were attacked are also easily identifiable to those in AOL circles. Swamiji in each case gave enough info to identify them. He might have as well named them. Not sure why he only named Engan but came just short of naming others.

    Engan friend’s post inspired me to make some comments on the three people I personally knew while they were working so hard in Ashram, as I felt Swamiji’s attack on them most unjust.

    “Another person who has joined this negative blog group is a young girl from Australia. Many people want proximity to Guruji and upon not getting what they want lash out at Guruji or the organization.. He tells them to take a project and sincerely work towards it instead of hanging around him. This girl from Australia even rose to work in the secretariat. AOL is such an open organization that anyone who is in the organization for one year and have done the necessary courses can become even a teacher.”

    Guruji put this capable lawyer to work at his office. She was a really sweet Indian girl and she was so committed and devoted to Guruji that left her good life in Australia to work for free for AOL. She thought Guruji was God and referred to him as Gurudev!

    She was often introduced as Guruji’s publicist and later on was even sent to Europe to do Media work for AOL and she did a lot of publicity work for AOL there and got lots of articles published in Europe’s media.

    What went sour I don’t know. Did she find out too much perhaps? or was it due to jealousy of Jaina? Whatever it was, it wasn’t due to lack of proximity to Guruji, as Guruji asked her to work in the secretariat.

    “Two Indian sisters are also part of this negative blog group. They did not have any genuine interest towards knowledge or service. They used to over exhibit their devotion to the Master, constantly vying for his attention. Their own brother, sister in law and other family members are all still actively involved in AOL. One of these sisters wanted to become an Advanced course teacher but was not made one. That factor combined with the not getting the kind of attention they wanted made both sisters leave AOL and take to writing these negative blogs.”

    Now these two Indian sisters, both very capable and talented, one of them a famous model (let’s call her NS), worked so hard for Guruji and Bhanu Didi. They were totally dedicated and devoted to Guruji.

    They were behind the first couple of successful Women Conferences in the Ashram. Bhanu Didi got very jealous of their success and after they got Women Conferences going, sidelined them and appointed her own secretary as coordinator for future conferences.
    NS also helped Bhanu Didi so much in promoting Guru Puja courses and helping with her Sahaj courses.

    Both NS and her sister PS were full time working at Ashram. Guruji and Bhanu Didi used NS’ fame and popularity to the max (like they do with all actresses and famous people). Both were AOL teachers.

    NS introduced all her family to AOL, including her own brother and sister-in-law and her only son. Her son also became an AOL teacher and because he was an educated and talented musician brought so many young people to AOL and even has couple of very popular AOL CDs to his name (one of these CD’s Ajay was trying to take credit for!). He and his mother NS are creators of “Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam” song, which was used at Silver Jubilee and has become one of the most famous and most used songs in AOL.

    Because of their love to Guruji, NS and PS even relocated to Bangalore so they can serve their Guru better. It is really sad that Swamiji now says they didn’t have any genuine interest towards knowledge or service. Giving her only son to AOL and working full time seva for AOL, and bringing all her family and friends and her famous name to AOL, what more she could do.

    Again, I don’t know what went sour, but whatever it was, it wasn’t due to lack of interest in knowledge and seva!

    Attack on these two sisters particularly saddened me as NS was very fond of Swami Sadyojathah and would refer to him as her brother. She worked so hard to promote Swamiji’s blessing course and even wrote about it in esatsang. This is the sad reality of AOL, friendship counts for nothing.

    And the saddest thing of it all is that Bhanu Didi used the sister-in-law to attack NS and PS and spy on them. Very sad indeed that AOL uses such tactics and creates split and disharmony among family members (very common AOL tactic). Very sad that this sister-in-law for some little attention and position sold out her husband’s sisters. Hope she and the brother and the son wake up to the truth of AOL and leave AOL and try to heal the rift in the family.

    AOL is not worth breaking your family apart over it. Just wake up and see how Guruji and Bhanu Didi look after their own families and see how proud them and Swamiji are for breaking apart yours. Sooner or later AOL will collapse, but your family is there for you for life. I can’t see how you can stay with AOL, when AOL so publicly attacks your sisters and your mother. You, of all people, would know how much seva your sister, aunt, mother did for AOL. How can you reconcile that with what Swamiji says now? They can easily do the same to you one day.

    • September 9, 2010 2:14 pm

      Swami, some day some one from Art of Living will write against you.
      Its Law of Karma.

    • Peaceful Warrior permalink
      September 9, 2010 4:46 pm

      Bhanu is a very mediocre. She would not have amounted to much, had she worked in the real world. But in AOL the only qualification you need is loyalty to RS, so no wonder she is put on a pedestal, despite no real accomplishments or talents.

      To make such people as teachers of spirituality and role models for women – shows how little respect you have for the institution of guru, and women for that matter. They have the audacity to ask students to respect them in the name of tradition (fake as it may be) – while they themselves treat tradition with such contempt.

      • mojo permalink
        September 9, 2010 7:52 pm

        @PW

        Totally agree about Bhanu’s mediocrity. She has only got the recognition because she is Ravi’s sister. She can’t sing for nuts. I’d often wonder, when I was just new in AoL, why Bhanu and not Chitra Roy was promoted. Chitra Roy has a beautiful voice, and has sung Nivedan . Also, I could never understand the Bhanu’s adulation for her brother. She’d be in a frenzy to spend time with him? As AoL started growing so did her diamonds. She makes no sense when she talks. I believe in the initial days Ravi was interested in promoting her as some sort of a Ma Guru too?

    • Well done permalink
      September 9, 2010 6:11 pm

      @ Ex-Ashramite,

      Well done dear. You have brought a very interesting stuff here. actually i was wondering why NS left and dint even attend her own sons wedding in ashram! Actually i think i also know that Young girl from Australia with indian origin. your comments will bring light to this blog. thanks

    • Well done permalink
      September 9, 2010 6:22 pm

      @ Ex-Ashramite,

      Could you also go through the “partial compilation of charges against the Art of Living activities – Edition” 2 under the page The Prosecutor? And bring some more insights to us?

      https://aolfree.wordpress.com/the-prosecutor/

  8. Sherlyn C permalink
    September 10, 2010 4:25 am

    Congratulations! This blog has made its way to Singapore and teachers are talking. Is there anyone who can translate to Chinese? I would offer my services but my Mandarin is extremely poor as I am from Malaysia 🙂

    I like to share with you my experience with aol. My boyfriend intro me to this group through thursday satsangs at the centre here at Jalan Ampas. I was not very keen so I never signed up for any courses but I only accompanied him to give him company for satsang because he insist 🙂 We met many teachers there and many of them are nice people.

    One teacher I know is an Indian lady (call her KS) with grown up children both studying overseas. She is very sincere and very smart. Sincere is ok for them here, but I think they are not very happy with the smart bit. There are often obstacles when she try to organise courses or intro talks. Her ideas are rejected by the other senior teachers. One time she single handedly raised more than $7K by her own effort, while the other senior teachers did not come anywhere close to that number.

    She is mostly sidelined and ignored but she still does better than the other teachers. There are lot of petty squabbling because the other teachers maybe see her as a big threat to their control of the local aol.

    Singaporeans reading this blog will know who I am talking about. She is only one of the problems for them here.

    Another teacher (AC) is one of the sweetest ladies I met. I find hard to believe she has anything in common with the other aol teachers here. She is a Chinese lady but I feel she embodies the teachings of Dharma and the Indian tradition much better than any of the Indian or other senior teachers here. Others can learn from here about being ego-free and humble. She naturally lives that way at any time. You can see her always smiling, got time to say Hi to anyone. Not many seniors respect her because she is not considered to be in the inner circle.

    I am amazed at the big ego of most of the teachers. They try to push you to sign up for courses and make you feel guilty. One teacher told me my bf was part of aol and don’t I want to be a part of his life? What bs! It is like a pyramid marketing scheme.

    I am not surprised some senior swami or guruji is talking bad about some senior teachers. I see the same thing happening here on a small scale even when the teacher is part of the aol and she is teaching actively. They look more like some small private club with their petty power fights and politics.

    • September 10, 2010 3:47 pm

      This is happening everywhere.
      There is tough competition in teachers to show who is best.

    • Trueaoldevotee permalink
      September 21, 2010 11:43 pm

      When I read the what sad swami wrote I knew who he was talking about.(ref to NS)

      I know NS personally and my best friend is close to her son.

      What AoL has done to her is the worst thing to do to someone. They defammed her so badly in AoL that the news of her departure reached outside India very fast. To bring a sensitive issue up especially to all who know what goes on behind close doors is the most stupidest thing the Swami can do.

      I can personally vouch for her dynamism and the work she has sone for AoL. Especially since I worked with her during the first womens conference.

      I have been holding myself from writing a very bad experience that true of AOL for a long time and now after reding this I will be sharing it with all of you.

      For this AoL can thank mr. Swami who was someone I had the upmost respect for.

      I will be putiing up my post in the next coming days.

      Thanks

      • goneagain permalink
        September 22, 2010 12:55 am

        Sad swami pissed of number of people and pushed many to come out to speak their experiences including @Doctor who shared his experiences in this blog, which generated lot discussion. We welcome your comments.

  9. September 10, 2010 5:54 am

    http://translate.google.com is a good tool to translate to different languages. Quite a big task for a person do to it manually.

    • freethinker permalink
      September 10, 2010 9:00 pm

      Just an example. I took this passage from the post,

      “I wonder why, out of all the people the disgruntled swami has described in his article, only one name was mentioned. Could this be because Ravi Shankar feels most threatened by her? I know her personally, and it is all too clear to me why she might be considered a threat to Ravi and his organization. She is a very capable woman, a loving person, and a good friend. After witnessing her interactions with others, I can understand how she has been so successful in bringing so many people to the aol courses over her years of service. Her presence inspires respect, and her words command attention. Because of this and the fact that she was once in the aol inner circle makes her a credible witness that people will surely listen to. So yes, it is quite understandable why Ravi might consider her dangerous, and obvious why he would want to single her out in this defamation campaign.”

      translated it to french using google, then got that text (in french) and translated to english again. See how it reads.

      “I wonder why, among all the peoples of unhappy Swami has described in his article, one name was mentioned. Is it because Ravi Shankar feels most threatened by it? I know her personally, and it is too clear to me why it could be considered a threat to Ravi and his organization. It is a very capable woman, a loving person and a good friend. After seeing his interaction with others, I can understand how she managed to put so many people to AOL during his years of service. His presence commands respect, and attention control words. For this reason and the fact that she was once in the inner circle AOL makes her a credible witness that people will surely listen. So yes, it is quite understandable that Ravi could consider her dangerous, and why he wants his own in this campaign of defamation.”

      See the google translate could be used as a first shot, some one has to proof read it and corret it, otheswise it could completely change the meaning.

    • Translator is another entertainer permalink
      September 10, 2010 9:16 pm

      Well i have much experience with google translator or simillar others. these translators are good for personal aid but they are not precise and end up being some joke!

  10. September 10, 2010 2:56 pm

    http://translate.google.com has too many mistakes when the text is being translated. We just need to selet some important articles to translate first. Praying for Higher Power’s healing and guidances. ^_^

    • freethinker permalink
      September 10, 2010 8:44 pm

      Agree, google translate won’t be as good as a person understands both languages translating. It would be really hard for a machine to translate intend of someone’s writing. Atleast not yet.

  11. mojo permalink
    September 10, 2010 3:34 pm

    Dear Blog Owners,
    When I read about the successes of this blog, I take it as a personal victory. My joy knows no bounds. To read that the blog has reached Singapore calls for applause and cheer. Take a bow to that, dear blog owners. With a small little blog you have shaken up an entire organization- you must be so proud of yourselves. To unmask psychotics like Ravi, his greedy family and the mess he is creating in the minds and lives of people is true seva. Good going!!

  12. Chinnamasti permalink
    September 10, 2010 5:04 pm

    One key observation we can easily get from sad swami sadyojatha’s article. All the people he has attacked in his article are women. I do not know any of these women – Engan or NS or PS or the unnamed australian woman. But I can surely as a woman emphathize with them. I am a woman and come from the smartha brahmin community. Our community and especially our family has strong links with the sharadha mutt in sringeri, karnataka. One of the first mathas among the four to be set up by the adi shankaracharya. We have had many people from our family history (men only) take sanyasa and even become the highest pontiff of this mutt.
    There is a high degree of anti women misogyny in this tradition. All the shankaracharyas are men. Women are just a secondary role. They can be either wives, sisters, mothers or even godessess to be worshipped. There is a notion of purity where women are banned from many religious rituals including the daily sandyavandana of brahmins. Mensurating women were considered untouchable and not allowed to cook and should remain isolated. Women cannot assert their individuality in this tradition. There is of course one instance of adi shankaracharya having a debate with ubhaya bharathi, manadana mishra’s wife. But that is just one instance in the whole shankaracharya tradition of more than 13 centuries. The value for male asecticism and renounciation and treating women as necassary evil or source of temptation is the norm.
    All major organized religions and traditions are male chauvinistic. In indian traditions there are some strains of vaishnava , shakta, bhakti and tantra traditions where women were empowered and claimed leading positions. I am also thankful to some of my immediate ancestors who subscribed to these traditions which helped empower women in our family inspite of our alligience to the smartha tradition.

    Of course it is clear that Ravishankar does not belong to any long tradition at all. He just claims to be part of a mongrelized shankaracharya tradition of brahmananda saraswathi and mahesh yogi. But still even in this mongrel tradition it is very easy to recognize the anti-women values.

    In art of living the vedic pandit students are all boys, no girls here. The rudra pooja is done by men, no women in there except as spectators and assistants. Ravishankar has given all these bogus titles of Swami and Rishi to only his male disciples – rishi nityaprajna, swami sadie sadyojatha, swami suryapada, swami brhmatej etc. Ever wonder why not one single women have been given any title here. In fact there are no titles for women. The women role models are his mother and sister. They are role models only because of the virtue of the fact that they are the mother and sister of the guru. They have no individual acheivements to their credit. But still the mother gets a big monument in her name as she is the mother of the guru.

    The other effect of this attitude is that any women who show independence are considered heretic. I can easily picture a high energy motivated women like Engan being a threat to these swamis and rishis and the guru. They cannot place her in their world view except as a mentally imbalanced person. Their lies the root of these attacks. It is very similar to the medeival witch hunting and burning witches in the catholic church. The very word witch means a wise women. The women who dared assert their individuality in a male dominated soceity. Even my brief interaction with the art of living made me understand their position. They need women as an ornamental recruitment agents. Just like models who tell cars and lipsticks. Of course they need women, the servile kind who slave in their misogynistic worldview. But women who can think and women who question, they are dangerous. That is what Swami Sadyojatha exposed himslef threadbare for all the world to see. Now how dare they talk of values.

    • Abhilash Shastry permalink
      September 11, 2010 3:17 am

      Chinnamasti:

      Contrary to your experience, I did not find AOL deliberately practicing misogyny.

      All major religious traditions are male chauvinist in nature. Even shakta and tantra traditions that appear pro-women on first glance are male chauvinist in their own twisted manner. Smartha tradition that you belong to is completely gender neutral in its teachings but fiercely male (and caste) chauvinist in practice. I think a major attraction of new age cult is that they appear to be gender, caste and religion neutral – something a modern mind can relate to. In the past people accepted their status of birth as part of their prarabdha and considered it futile to struggle against it. So they could get spiritual nourishment in their own tradition even if they were second class members. Today, it is difficult for any person looking for spiritual nourishment to unquestioningly accept the inequity built in their spiritual tradition. So they either completely ignore it, or become a fundamentalist or if they are of a discerning type, start groping in a spiritual vacuum. Just look at the AOL-ers profile in India. Almost all of them are those who are somewhat disconnected from the spiritual tradition they were born into, disconnected from their place of birth, and disconnected from the literature of their mother tongue. They are living in a spiritual angst. Step in cults like AOL.

      Coming back to your observation, as far as AOL is concerned, I think being a woman is a plus point there – esp. if you are good looking. The things that can help a new recruit in rising fast in AOL cadre are celebrity status, wealth, good looks, PR skills and willingness to sacrifice his/ her personal life. In short anything that helps in recruiting even more people.

      Your observation about SSRS not being a part of any long tradition but an off shoot of mongrelised tradition of BS and MMY is entirely correct except that SSRS was never associated with BS. His access was up to MMY, who himself was not an initiated disciple of BS. As you are coming from shankaracharya tradition you very well know that as a non – Brahmin, there was no way for MMY to get initiation from BS. MMY worked as accountant in Jyotirmutt and picked up bits and pieces from BS’ discources. That is all the knowledge he had and that is all he transmitted to his (then) student Ravi Shanker. That is why SSRS official biography goes vague when it comes to naming his own guru.

      I find it amusing SSRS distributing titles of “Rishi” and “Swami” left and right. “Rishi” is of course no formal title, but “Swami” is a formal title that can be given only by someone who is a “Swami” himself -thus tracing back his unbroken lineage of guru-shishya parampara right up to adi shankaracharya. Moreover, “swami” is formally recognized in Hindu Personal Law as a renunciate who cannot hold any property in his name. Since SSRS himself is not a “swami”, his conferring swami title on his disciples is a big joke. “Rishi” is another story. In the initial days of his business, SSRS had tough competition from another MMY disciple, Rishi Prabhakar. At one time rivalry was so intense that AOL would not take anyone if they had done SSY of Rishi Prabhakar. Then one fine day SSRS came up with the strategy of conferring “Rishi” title on his students making it appear that Rishi Prabhakar was not another independent business owner but just a branch of Sri Sri Inc. I have seen SSY people complaining bitterly about this “unethical (!)” business practice of SSRS.

      • Chinnamasti permalink
        September 11, 2010 7:40 am

        Abhilash
        Your well informed views are always a treat to read.

        There are these two questions which I will still persist in asking AOL.

        1. Why there are no titular positions for women in AOL
        2. Do they view women as ornamental sales persons to get recruitment into their cult or do they have any strategic decision making powers.

  13. Engan's friend #2 permalink
    September 10, 2010 8:57 pm

    Engan opened ALL of South America (not just a few countries but an entire continent) and taught also in the US, Spain and Portugal, and was in charge of translating everything, etc. She taught APEX, prison course, created many projects in the slums, taught Yes, organized and translated many TTCs and Part 2 and Sahaj, trained teachers … interesting what bipolarity can do.

    • WhistleBlower permalink
      September 11, 2010 2:22 am

      LOL……………”interesting what bipolarity can do.”

      And what a shame bipolars can no longer do TTC, as per new directive from Ashram:

      5. Please do not encourage those who are not physically fit, having psychiatric problems, having difficulty in walking / doing Seva / playing games, etc.

      Considering what one bipolar person (according to Swamiji) has done for AOL, it would make sense to make bipolarity a pre-requisite for TTC. Then SriSri could conquer all 5 continents with just 5 bipolar person. He could then kick out all the rest of useless AOL teachers, esp. those who are being paid too much and demand Europe trips with their partner and family members.

      • Prairie Princess permalink
        September 11, 2010 4:08 am

        Mental illness might also explain some of the behavior of the current crop of senior teachers. Odd that the Sad Swami didn’t mention them by name. Perhaps strangling and beating each other is normal as is making advances to women, especially married ones. This Engan sounds like a remarkable person. Maybe she should start her own “movement” just like ravi did when he left Maharishi Yogi.

  14. South-America Insider permalink
    September 10, 2010 9:25 pm

    And, the exboyfriends Swami’s letter mentions, none of them were her exes. One is gay, the other is married with teenage children and was appalled with the letter, and Ignacio, she saved from suicide (not the guru) while the guru instructed her to be with him, making her understand that if he killed himself it would be her fault.

    Ignacio joined the AoL because he liked her so much and not because he was taken by RS. He used to say Guruji knew he was fond of her and used her to keep him “in the path”. Too bad his memory is now twisted. As he had a psychotic breakdown, he was physically abusive with her too – RS was informed but was only interested in nailing the guy because of his family connections (or because, as some senior teachers said, “because he is pretty boy and he likes pretty boys”).

    Guruji himself used to say he is border-line personality, bipolar, multiple-personality, schizophrenic because he has some big sexual issues. I guess he himself does not know any psychology and uses these terms freely whenever he needs to.
    If Ignacio knew what he says behind his back, he’d break.

    The therapist who supervised him then also highly advised her to stay away from him for her own safety because he was radically violent. He wanted to put him away. Enag went thru a lot of shit trying to save him. It is too bad he now attributes it all to Guruji.

    And Beatriz was never her ex boyfriend but her student who was very jealous and lied about her constantly. SSRS supported her instead because “she is older”, and basically, we all know it is because she had money and is highly ambitious. SS loves people with no scruples, psycho and rich. If they are going to defame, at least get it right. Not everyone is stupid or braindead.

    Enag’s parents even hosted him at their house and many teachers, who even loved her mother’s cooking. It is embarrassing for the AoL if these very same teachers support these lies too.

    We were well aware Janael insisted so much for her to become a teacher because she saw the potential of what she could do for AoL – and in fact did. Too bad if Janael is behind this letter too.

    But ain’t this typical AoL retaliation and creative way of expressing gratitude to those who dedicated a good chunk of life time to them? It should make everyone think before they get more involved. It could happen to you too.

    Hopefully people will think freely and not just believe everything that is being said. Maybe this will force people to think and question the true character of AoL and its leader. I believe Sri Sri does not know anything. He just gets out to hunt and take wild guesses. His spirituality is overwhelming.

    • Wonder permalink
      September 10, 2010 9:56 pm

      @ all friends of Eng-an,

      It is so kind of all of you friends who have spoken up for Eng-an in time. The more the supporters of Eng-An writes, it becomes clearer what Swami Sadyojathah is capable of. And how he represents the Art of Living.

      I used to hear few very interesting stories in my TTC a decade ago, about how bad so and so was and how guruji’s compassion still saved her! Now i know better.

  15. Mandarin guy permalink
    September 10, 2010 11:48 pm

    Dear Skywalker

    This blog has to reach the Mandarin speaking population urgently His Holiness has plans to visit China soon. Most of the sheep are found in Taiwan,Hong Kong Malaysia and Mainland China and I suggest you embed the google translate in your blog never mind if it is not 100% accurate the message can reach the masses,

    http://digg.com/news/technology/Simplest_and_Fastest_way_to_embed_Google_Translator

  16. Chinnamasti permalink
    September 11, 2010 7:47 am

    Another lie by Swami Sadyojatha. The email IDs he has provided for reference to Engam’s behaviour are false. I sent mails to these people and it has bounced back.

    This is my mail:

    To: bgoyoago@fibertel.com.ar

    Dear Beatriz Goyoaga,
    I was referred to your name by Swami Sadyojatha’s blog. I would like to know your views on Engam’s behaviour and medical history. Swami Sadyojatha has mentioned you know the details.

    I am currently working on the thesis on the anti-woman attitudes of movements like art of living and I will be needing this information to further my investigation.
    ————-
    Thank you in Advance
    Chinnamasti Devi

    The mail id does not exist:

    Mail Delivery Subsystem to me
    show details 1:04 PM (9 minutes ago)

    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    bgoyoago@fibertel.com.ar

    Technical details of permanent failure:
    Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1. No such address: . (state 14).

    • WhistleBlower permalink
      September 11, 2010 8:51 am

      Good detective work Chinnamasti. Her correct email address is:
      bgoyoaga@fibertel.com.ar

      • Chinnamasti permalink
        September 14, 2010 6:41 am

        I have sent emails to both Beatriz Goyoaga and Ignacio Escribano asking for details about Engan’s behaviour and medical reports. It has been more than four days now and no reply. The swami had given their email IDs as a reference and it has turnedd out to be bogus.
        With this we conclude that Disgruntled swami sadyojatha’s malicious tirade is baseless. Any lackeys who want to challenge this can raise their hands here.

  17. Steve Liu permalink
    September 13, 2010 5:48 am

    Is this a silly joke by Sad Swami? I’ve been acquainted with Jonathan Tang, and though he was involved in art of living activities, there was never any contact of that nature between Jon and Engan except related to organizing courses and other activities some years ago.

    This is Jon: http://www.facebook.com/jontang

    This looks to me more like an attempt to bring down many birds with one stone. Maybe they have something against Jon now?

  18. gurubuster permalink
    May 29, 2012 5:11 am

    @chinnamasti, Beatriz Goyoaga is telling her side of the story in another blog which shows she has no guts to confront all of the testimonials defending Enang work in the Art of Living. And by the way I don´t think Guruji would have given Enang the task of running the Art of Living from zero in both Argentina and Brasil if she had been mentally imbalanced… what most likely happened is that she ended up mentally burned out after the whole story. Is great to learn she got her life back. Here´s the link where Goyoaga says her version https://aolf.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/beatriz-on-her-experience-with-lady-x/

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