Questions AOLites should ask themselves
by Strong Volunteer
Harshal,
AOLite needs to ask following questions to themselves.
1. When all of us are decalring him as our strong Guru in public (Including Social Networking Sites), Why Guruji is not declaring the name of his guru once in a public ?
2. If my Guru is God, Do we really need to pay anything to learn from him in advance ?
3. If all the teachers are pure and working for Humanity why do they not organizing the course even though the targets are not met.
4. Why they are always ready for the fund raising events or marketing propoganda and why not for doing course with few participants.
5. Do we really need to pay anything for doing Volunteering work ?
6. We are the only one who are responsible for seva having new no. of courses to attract the people ?
7. Do we really need to ask foreigners to pay more money for all this courses e.g. TTC for Indian is 10,000 and for Foreigners 5000 US $ – Is it spirituality ? Do we seriously working for Humanity.
8. Do you really think all other courses except basic one is really needs to be so costly ?
9. If we are on a path on Moksha and Purity , dont you think so we should be transparent in all financial aspects of organization with all employees and teachers and volunteers ?
10. Why do we need to start the project which are only for fund raising ? Sumeru Reality and Sri Sri university ?
Its enough for now i think. Wake up guys. Don’t allow them to control your mind in any matter. If you think you donate or doing seva for the Courses and have magic then your mind becomes more and more weak and you start loosing your confidence.
This practices are only useful when Human Mind is unhappy or in stress.
Do you allow someone to earn from your unhappiness or stress ?
Wake Up Sid.
JGd
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Beyond The Art of Living 
strong volunteer: I wish you had a strong mind.
I have one answer for your 10 questions. If you don’t like something, just move on. Why keep rambling about it? OR If you really think you want to make a change, you should ask these questions openly and talk to the concerned people teachers. Why here? On an anonymous blog of people with agendas? Either you are not serious and are here just for entertainment (just like I am) or you don’t have the balls(moral authority) to ask these questions.
If you really don’t like what Strong Volunteer says on the blog, Harshal, why don’t you move on instead of rambling on about it (pretending to be entertained, when you are very angry all the time and it’s truly obvious). It’s none of your business what people post here. If you don’t like it, go away. :-))) Jai Jai Jai Guru Dev!
SV — Your questions are excellent imo. Keep asking them, and encourage your friends who are being sucked down into the whirlpool of SSRS’s avarice to ask them as well. If people wake up to what is happening, they will walk away, eventually. Then maybe SSRS will go and do some sadhana, alone, and become the innocent, decent person he once was before he got a taste of the world and all it’s power and money.
I wish all the best to Harshal and waiting for that time when the little man inside him wake up as soon as possible. God has given everyone intelligence use it wisely.
“why don’t you move on instead of rambling on about it”
Because it is entertainment for me. How can I make myself more clear?
Pls Just ask a single Question in TRM to Guruji.
And read Gita Man. – Earning money on the name of the spirituality is a big sin.
I hope by mistake you are not doing any sin for the society until u aware about it it might be late.
Earning money on the name of the spirituality is a big sin- ah…can you show me which verse of Gita says that?
Why is it not ok to earn money by selling spirituality? I think it is absolutely fine and should be encouraged. I think it is better than earning money by selling antidepressants.
We are not Rambling. I think every person and Organizations should learn something from the criticism we are here to raise our voice against bad. I still prefer SK is good for human being and Thankful to guruji for giving a us a gift. It does not mean that we need to sell everything on the name of spirituality.
6.He, who restraining the organs of action, sits revolving in the mind, thoughts regarding objects of senses, he, of deluded understanding, is called a hypocrite.
9. The world is bound by actions other than those performed for the sake of Yajna; do thou therefore, O son of Kunti, perform action for Yajna alone, devoid of attachment
12. “The Devas, cherished by Yajna, will give you desired-for objects.” So, he who enjoys objects given by the Devas without offering (in return) to them, is verily a thief.
17. But the man who is devoted to the Self, and is satisfied with the Self, and content in the Self alone, he has no obligatory duty.
18. He has no object in this world (to gain) by doing (an action), nor (does he incur any loss) by non-performance of action,—nor has he (need of) depending on any being for any object.
19. Therefore, do thou always perform actions which are obligatory, without attachment;—by performing action without attachment, one attains to the highest.
21. Whatsoever the superior person does, that is followed by others. What he demonstrates by action, that, people follow.
25. As do the unwise, attached to work, act, so should the wise act, O descendant of Bharata, (but) without attachment, desirous of the guidance of the world.
26. One should not unsettle the understanding of the ignorant, attached to action; the wise, (himself) steadily acting, should engage (the ignorant) in all work.
– B Gita , The Way of Action
But one who has not mastered his passions,whose intellect -the guide to his sense-organs – is wild,and who is devoid of discrimination and renunciation – such a man taking up the monk’s triple staff for the sake of subsistence, is a destroyer of religion, and cheats the Gods,cheats himself, and Me who resides in his self.With his impurities unconsumed,he is deprived of both this life and the life to come.
– Sri Krishna to Uddhava , Uddhava Gita
@Harshal is asking for a proof of Geeta Verse. It would be better if you can ask the trustee the financial report of AOL every Year.
Earning Money from spirituality is not a sin then do business, Why r u using the Volunteers on the name of NGO ?
@Harshal,
IbN Warraq, Ayan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan are apostates from islam. They didn’t like Islam and quit the fold of the faithful. Applying your logic shouldn’t they have simply moved on without making a fuss about their apostate status ?? There are many other Muslims who quit the ranks of the faithful and choose to remain quiet about it.
The thing with Ayan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan is that we all know their names. They had the courage to stand up for what they thought was correct. There was no anonymous mud slinging. So you cannot compare yourself or this blog with them. The difference again -I would reiterate and stress is your lack of balls(moral authority) to stand up.
@Harshal, – In resposne to week mind.
I have a strong mind and have daring to oppose anything wrong in the world.
I am strong enough to earn money on my skills and capabilities no need to use the name of spirituality and any yoga techniques to earn money and making wealth.
Strong mind to read this criticism and learn from it and fight with my own self, people who are still not ready to visit this blog are still in that glamor world and have fear to fight with their inner self only may be they are worried about their glow in their face.
I have clear mind to donate the money to people who are in need to not to those who are utilizing money on investing in reality and university and making money out of them.
I have pure mind to find out and decide what is wrong and what is right for me and for the society.
I am not geedy to become a gr8 teacher / singer / volunteer who can close eyes with blind faith on all wrong doings in the organization.
I will never attracted now by any person with glow and nice speech / personality because i am believing only in the Good Karma done by them.
I am pure since i am not brainwashing any people for my own wish to make the things done by fake promises and speeches because i know god is still resides in me.
I am out of Glamor world.
Shivo Hum Shivo Hum Shiv Swaroopo Hum
people has been asking questions. what are you doing? after reading this, why dont join and ask these questions !
Dont teach others. First learn yourself.
everything could have been justified if there was real charity being done ..
Talking of ball, people posting here are mostly the ones who had the balls to get out of the sick organization. Whereas people like Harshal do not have the balls to think different from what SSRS tells them. Staying so long in the organization has castrated them so that their ball-less ness is permanent.
everything could have been justified if there was real charity being done
Name one charity who you think does real work. And I will show you an anti blog for that charity. If there isint one , I will create one.
@HArshal
“Why is it not ok to earn money by selling spirituality? I think it is absolutely fine and should be encouraged. I think it is better than earning money by selling antidepressants.”
Thanks Harshal for your confirmation.
You proved again by confirming that AOL is Business Organization with Spiritual Products only which utilises free man power like you now.
Jai Gurudev.
Red Cross Society,
Sewa Bharti,
Swami Vivekananda Educational Trust
Mother Teresa Rural Development Society
to name a few, please go ahead and post a link of a blog you found and or created
Here is corruption in Red Cross
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/667687/Senior-Red-Cross-official-charged-with-corruption.aspx
Here is Sewa Bharti scandal
Click to access British_charity_and_Hindu_extremism_a_report_summary.pdf
Here is Christopher Hitchens about mother Terasa and how her fundamentalist motives was behind all the charity work
http://www.smh.com.au/world/christopher-hitchens-10-most-controversial-quotes-20111217-1ozqq.html
just google and you will find more about others.
Not that I subscribe to all the views expressed. I am just saying that you start one organization and then there will be idiots like you who will want to poop all over the good work done by it.
@ anon: I dont have energy to read through all Gita verses. Give me one verse which specifically directly and clearly says that marketing spirituality is not good. Make sure that the word ‘marketing’ is there.
well,people weren’t marketing spirituality then…
anyway it is not there to convince people.The message it conveys is pretty clear only if you had the patience to go through the few verses.
This should should sum up what your guru is about:
But one who has not mastered his passions,whose intellect -the guide to his sense-organs – is wild,and who is devoid of discrimination and renunciation – such a man taking up the monk’s triple staff for the sake of subsistence, is a destroyer of religion, and cheats the Gods,cheats himself, and Me who resides in his self.With his impurities unconsumed,he is deprived of both this life and the life to come.
– Sri Krishna to Uddhava , Uddhava Gita
hmm ..2 articles and pdf file .. that is a lot of online data you found ..
there will be idiots like you who will want to poop all over the good work done by it.
did you learn this language in the Art of Living or did you pick it up from HBO?
Do you realize the harm you are doing to the organization by posting here, and adding fuel to the fire, you are doing the maximum disservice(if any) to the master and the organization by writing on this blog. Do you even realize this? If you really want to entertain yourself . . you should stick to HBO and the Art of Living, you are only adding to the hits and search engine ranking of this blog. Its idiots like you who are bringing this blog to the page 1 of google and its idiots like you who are pooping all the good work(if any) of the organization rather than me.
Stop posting here Harshal, if you really feel for the organization. Its you who is doing the disservice and not me.
Wow,what logic! This guy’s brain is made of special material, beyond the fathom of us, mortal folks. You never know, may be he is ‘the chosen one’, who will take over the reins from SSRS. At least, going by the way his mind works, he seems a perfect fit..
there are lots of student volunteer organizations run by Indian communities in US Universities… completely run based on money raised from volunteer work, which is far greater than what the AOL does…
Examples
http://www.stuorg.iastate.edu/sankalp/
Is this ‘Harshal’ one of the founders of this site? He seems to be so full of negativity.
@Harshal,
He needs one more adavance course with Guruji.
Could we please take up a donation to buy Harshal cable TV? He needs entertainment, and doesn’t like what is said here and expresses it so bitterly. Perhaps he’d enjoy cable more. If being bitter and angry all the time is his entertainment (lots of AOLers are that way — they only enjoy fighting and hurting each other), then so be it.
And Where Guruji will present only during Satangs onlyyyyyyyyyyyy
I would be the first to donate since i know the good cause behind it.
What’s the problem here? AOL is a business. So many volunteers have quit their jobs to work full time in AOL, they need to get paid and support their families. The catholic church is a pretty profitable business, so are other organized religious groups, why not AOL? What do you expect the world to do? Governments get together to shut down AOL? Regulate it like public utilities? Declare them a terrorist organization?
Scam groups and companies have been around since time began. So have the good guys. It’s never black or white, it’s always shades of grey. If the whacko nutcase cult of scientology and their supreme nemesis overlord xenu can run a profitable (and legal) business, AOL is positively benign and nowhere close to the destructive potential of lord Travolta, Cruise or their minions.
@Bhargav
Bhargav Maharaj – If its business dont declare it we are running NGO full of volunteers.
If its NGO or the Business, Have you seen any Annual Report of FInance which was publicly posted anywhere ?
After 30 Years of Brainwashed Volunteer service this NGO is going to be a spiritual company and made no. of people fool on the name of seva. Its not about only earning money for the FULL timers, its all about the money you asked for the Donation for Volunteer where it goes dear.
Spending Donations money on Reality Estate or university and Make the profitable business out of it is not an NGO. There are still more fools working for them.
@ Bhargav … Nothing like that .. personally I don’t really care whether it shuts down or not, but am just here to warn people not to give up their careers and be a full time slave. Nothing is wrong, AoL may not be fully wrong but neither it is fully right, same here with this blog, it may not be fully right but neither its totally wrong, thats the reason it has more than half a million hits.
I dont know about shri shri. but most gurus in kaliyuga are fake except for few.
Its rightly said in the Bhagwatam that, in kaliyuga, you will have such fake gurus, who (a) hoard wealth for their own security & pleasure (artha & kama), (b) the ashram willl be defined as of a kings palace that offer all the luxuries of life.
These were the same gurus who abondoned their family life to thread in the path of moksha. But now you see they have made so many guru bhai / guru behans / guru sons.
Who asked them to do welfare to society?. They themselves have not attained that state/level in spirituality, then how can they expect that their mantras (guru diksha) will even work.
We wrongly think that, if we walk out of our house, with no clue abt our wereabts, the entire family will suffer. They will go without food or money. Bull shit ! All events takes place as per the will & wish of Almighty. After a year if we come, we see that, things are much better compared to when we were at home. Infact we were the only problematic items of our family.
Similarly if wrong gurus will go out of action, the society will benefit.
Look this guy is an aol teacher and still he does serve the humanity in different way , not sure how this guy is handling the false criticism of aol fools!
Vist http://www.Totheself.com
To check I send mail to this guy to ask his obstacles, Will post soon I have his answer.
I think Psychiatrist and some doctors are Pseudo-scientists. These Psychiatrists are bigger business men and women with billion dollar industry of medicines. Some people should search google for pseudo psychiatry in google and read before commenting.
I highly recommend videos in youtube on Anti-psychiatry. These people better know what they are doing. Manipulating words and renaming them for money only makes these doctors themselves psychiatric patients.
Anonymous is parroting SSRS’ usual gripe about psychology
I would really like (request) you all to come in the day light revealing the real identity of yours and proofs of your stories/events you post here and on other similar blogs. I am a devotee of Guruji but not a teacher. I often stumble upon this blog when I search something related to Art of Living. Although it is really healthy to have criticism but the recent things posted here are things that amount to crime and fraud. Only an anonymous blog wouldn’t do any good to the society or people in general. If you are threatened by art of living, then you should go to Human Rights or such things- if they too are corrupt then there is no way. But it is really bad to have no one whom you can trust these days- especially in spirituality- as often people come to spirituality as a last resort and final answer to all their problems and questions.
Either your facts are biased, or you do not have enough evidences or courage or you are afraid of the consequences but the real aim of this blog which I think is to warn people of a cult and help them come out of it is not helping some genuine sincere seekers at all. This would be more powerful if it is backed by evidence and instead of being anonymous, it comes out on all TV news channels, news papers with pictures, footage, some solid proof. Then only this kind of fraud would stop. You only see, even after this blog, how many people could you stop from following SSRS. Even after getting doubts about him after reading your blogs, I still am drawn to him, his practices etc. And I am not a mad devotee either. I am a rational being who urges you to please come more clearer in future and your job should be removing any doubts about the fraud nature of this organization and its founder. But instead what you are achieving is only creating bad taste in people about this. If you are right, collect people together with such experiences, and the people who made accusations and start another movement like Anna Hazare ji’s. Start a movement against such misleading spirituality. If any of this is found right, I would be the first one to join but please back it with solid evidence. Otherwise, it really is sad how already weak faith is shattered every day and seekers are lost in dark. There is another way- has anyone among you found a better Guru or path or practice or do you also have some second suggestion about what to do for the people who leave art of living. They came into it because either they had troubles, or they had profound questions- what will now happen to those questions- do you advice where shall one seek those answers. Unless you can really help people out- just writing about someone or something is very self- sabotaging habit. May the force be with you.
And yes I forgot to add, I agree with many posts here about money, about half- baked teachers and about substantial marketing of products. For all of that I used to think, if something works for me, I will take it and choose according to my wish as I cannot control how bad the teachers are or how vigorous is the marketing. But now with new accusations of sex and all and the stuff about guruji and the boys in the ashram- I feel shattered. At the same time, I feel if it is the truth then it should come out in broad daylight. No one wants to be guided by a wrong guru. Please help. thanks.
Please help. thanks.
Dear Healer,
Really, what kind of help do you think people here can give you? You have to help yourself. Some have shared their experiences in aol here. Take it or leave it. In fact, I would say, *leave it*. Use your own judgement and think through what happens to you and others in AoL and conclude what you may.
At the time of experiencing all those incidents, i dont think anyone here was ‘collecting proof’ to later start a blog and provide it all to the likes of you.
Those of us who have had similar experiences, it helps to share and get validated by others. No one forced you to read or believe all that is said.
And why should i reveal my identity? Have left Aol and moved on, and certainly wouldn’t like my employer and friends to know i was part of a cult (yes, believe it or not, out in the real world, outside your aol circles, there are many who think its a cult)!
What is the guarantee that my name, address, aol post(s) etc, would convince you that my experiences were true?
Healer,
Having been severely persecuted by Art of Living and Guruji when I left the organization against his wishes, I would never reveal my identity. It would simply open me to more hurt and abuse from them/him. As it is, can’t you see on this blog that he is actually suing the blogmasters?? Did Jesus worry about people who didn’t like him? Did Krishna? Did Rama? No. A true spiritual leader wouldn’t need to sue to stop a blog like this. If your faith is so deep, I advise you to get very close to Guruji. Live with him initimately, then judge for yourself. I don’t mean attend the satsangs. I mean get really really close. See for yourself. That’s the only way you can be sure. Because nobody who has left under abuse, who is now in their right mind, would ever give their identity for those horrible people to have and use (again) against them! Why should I? Fortunately for me, my family knew already that I was in a cult for some time, and they welcomed me back. But many friends drifted away, and all my AOL “friends” were certainly evaporated, except those who saw what he was doing to me for what it was: persecution to protect his secrets, many of which I knew. This is often the case with close devotees who leave: They are first talked sweetly to to keep them around, then threatened, if they refuse to come back. It’s really sick. I’m sorry it’s ruined your feelings to some degree, but wouldn’t you rather know the truth? Would you rather wander around in the dark with this man?
Yes, I’ve personally met many great masters in India. Unfortunately, the two greatest whom I knew well have recently passed away. Both of them knew Guruji, and both thought he was “just a man with many Siddhis, some knowledge, who should have just married”. That was their take on him. One was the revered Bhadragiri Keshavadas. Another was the Great Tiruchi Swamigal. Another very great saint who comes to Bangalore once yearly, whom you can see briefly is Amritananda Mayi Devi (called “Ammachi”). But I never got to know her, as there are always masses around her. She did ask me, once, who was my guru, when I was with AOL, and I told her. She said “oh, the ‘so ham’ man” That was all. She just smiled.
See for yourself, healer. Above all, even if you find out what many at this blog found out — that AOL is crooked, that the master is not so great as you thought, don’t lose your faith in God. Just be hesitant to follow any man. It’s Kali Yuga and many Gurus will be there who are fakes, showing tremendous power and energy. Remember that always, and keep your faith safely with God.
I too fail to understand the maze of AOL. But one simple qeustion to you guys.
Currenlty Sri Sri is in Pakisatan, riskig his life. If he really wants, he could njoy his life in either US or UK where there are plenlty of follower.. why do you think he is risking his life . I dont think, he is wearing any bullet proof not got any Z security with him
The Pakistan trip is appreciable, so is the work in Iraq and Afghanistan, after all there is some good to AoL too. Not everything in AoL has to be bad . .. does it .. Oh its Aol so it must be some hidden agenda behind … no its not that at all , do you think SSRS thinks himself to be a villain .. No he does not .. He surely thinks of himself as a good person doing good to the world. He may have flaws but surely he is not completely flawed, infact no person on this planet is completely flawed. Everybody has some good in them, and everyone has flaws.. the major flaw in AoL is that they(aolites) think there are no flaws in Aol and SSRS.. if they correct that mentality I think AoL would be a truly great thing to have happened on this world . I am sure he maybe thinking that the Shakti drop actually works. He surely must be convinced about what he is doing. .
It’s called having a God complex. That’s about it. He really believes he is God. He’s quite deluded.
All Business Mens will take a risk in their life to visit any place all over the world. So many indian business mens are doing business in the afganistan and iraq too. Do u see thats the only reason why u wanna follow him ? Dont u see any other reasons which help u to come out from the Cult ?