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Excellent Response to “Spiritual Council” Post

February 23, 2012

by VSS

If “in-house” journalists are coming up with such BIZARRE suggestions, it can only mean that AoL has no vision. No organization, spiritual or otherwise, can survive without a practical and rational long-term goal. There will never be a “Spiritual Council” of this nature, nor will it have a head like SSRS. Spiritualism does not require administration, policies, rules and regulations.

AoL has been successful in tapping into anxiety in people — through shrewd marketing strategies and fake sweet talk. But that’s not working. If anything can revive its fortunes, it has to be actions that are less bizarre and not more bizarre.

SSRS needs Hinduism. It’s not the other way round. It would be a colossal mistake on his part to think that it’s the other way round. No individual can be bigger than any religion. Nor can a cult take over a religion. It has never happened.

If it had to happen, it would have happened a long time ago, and, it would have happened all over the world. We would have countless examples of different cult leaders taking over different religions.

AoL is in need of a make-over, if it has to survive. If this is the make-over, then it has failure written all over it. Perhaps “in-house” journalists need to come up with better strategies. It seems like they’re simply not doing their work properly. If they were doing their work properly, first those who have left AoL would be inspired to return to it, and then, new people would be inspired. At the very least, a new idea or suggestion must at least inspire those who are reading it.

This entire idea of a “Spiritual Council” is not just bizarre and impossible, but boring, uninteresting, and uninspiring too. It’s not even an eloquent ode to megalomania. I don’t think Francois Gautier is enjoying his work. He sounds bored. He sounds like he has run out of ideas and is just looking for a way to somehow complete his work so that the people he reports to don’t get suspicious. It just doesn’t seem like he put his heart and soul into his words. He might even be depressed. Maybe his depression is making him delusional. Who knows.

Most AoL defenders, at least on this blog sound delusional. They ask for proof when everything posted on this blog is so obviously heartfelt that it is moving beyond measure. They say that SSRS does not indulge in unethical practices even when he’s selling “enlightenment” for a fee to anyone who can pay. It’s almost as if enlightenment is a product — like a shampoo or a deodorant. They say he cares for his people, when in over 30 years, the only people who are visible (other than him) are Bawa and Dinesh, and his sister. They say he doesn’t force Hindu rituals on people from other religions when on Mahashivaratri, there was 24-hour chanting of Hindu mantras in his ashram, at a time when several people from several religions were visiting. They say AoL makes better people out of people when all that they do is misbehave on this blog because they are so stressed out! It never seems like any of the meditation etc. works for them. They sound like they have never known any peace. None of them ever sound compassionate or sensitive or humane. On the contrary, they’re ill-mannered and offensive. I used to think that whatever AoL might or might not do, at least it’ll make people more courteous and better-behaved. But I was wrong.

Now, in response to this comment too, someone from AoL will post some offensive comments. Someone who claims to be involved in the task of making society “stress-free” will create stress. The disconnect between words and actions in AoL is so colossal that I often wonder if AoL stands for anything at all.

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70 Comments
  1. Jr. permalink
    February 23, 2012 9:53 pm

    There is such irony in AOL, isn’t it true?

    They are always talking about compassion, yet they are condescending and express blame on posters on this blog. They preach tolerance yet resort to mostly insults and threats. They are taught that anything of true value is beyond proof, but they constantly demand it on this blog.

    I think a large part of the problem is with kriya. It really messes people up when they are on it, and can bring out the darkest side of people.

  2. VSS permalink
    February 25, 2012 10:10 am

    @ Jr.

    Thank you for reading and commenting. You’re absolutely right. The lack of etiquette that they exhibit is inexplicable. How can human beings not behave like human beings just because someone disagrees with them? I don’t know about “kriya” though. If it brings out “the darkest side of people”, then it’s definitely not worth it. Anything that doesn’t make human beings more humane is not worth it.

    I just found out that yesterday there was a “yoga rave” in Bangalore. The price of the ticket was INR 1000, and what was promised was dance, trance, meditation, religion, and, food, in an alcohol-free, drug-free, and, smoke-free atmosphere. It seems that there are a lot of people in Bangalore who have money, no date on Friday night, but want to be “cool”.

    So, AoL’s marketing specialists decided to tap into the aspirations of those who “want to be cool” but don’t know how. It started with the “flash mob” in various locations in Bangalore, and ended with the “yoga rave” in a five star hotel.

    There are many young professionals in Bangalore who have probably recently found employment in the various industries there. Many of them have probably moved from smaller towns. They have money but they also have apprehensions about how to spend it. So, if you tell them, it’s for “spiritual growth”, they’ll even go to a nightclub on a Friday night.

    But what is it that a young person really wants? A young person wants people to hangout with. A young person wants a date on Friday night. A young person wants fun. What are the possible apprehensions? The first one is spending money on something that might be a waste. The second one is hanging out with the wrong sort of people.

    What does AoL do? AoL brings religion and Spiritualism into everything. In a country like India, where people are almost innately religious, they begin to feel safe because AoL tells them that the objective behind all the activities being promoted by AoL is Spiritualism. If their conservative well wishers ask them why they’re spending money on AoL, they say it’s for Spiritualism. If the less conservative ask them why they don’t just go to a nightclub if that’s what they want to do, they say nightclubbing with AoL is alcohol-free, drug-free, and smoke-free.

    So, AoL ends up being a cult of people who are afraid of spending money on alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes. I don’t recommend spending money on any kind of substance abuse either. But the difference between someone like me and someone in AoL is that I am not afraid of falling into the trap of substance abuse, and especially not to the extent, that I would rather fall into the trap of a cult like AoL.

    The true test of abstaining from substance abuse is when one is in a place where all sorts of substances are available, and one has enough will power to say “NO”. It shouldn’t matter if one is in a gathering of people who are all indulging in substance abuse. One should have the ability to stand up for oneself and say “NO”. If one needs an SSRS to say “NO”, then that means there is an addiction to SSRS.

    That means AoL is a cult of weak people who are addicted to SSRS, and incapable of independent thought and action. That also means that over a period of time, they become weaker and weaker and weaker. They become more and more and more dependent on SSRS. If he says “please meditate”, they’ll meditate. If he says “please do yoga”, they’ll do yoga. If he says “please go and be a part of a flash mob”, they’ll go and be a part of a “flash mob”. If he says “please go to a nightclub for Spiritualism”, they’ll go to a nightclub for Spiritualism. If he says “please spend your money on AoL courses and products”, they’ll spend money on AoL courses and products.

    All he says along with that is that it’s all for a religious purpose, and meant to facilitate spiritual growth. He doesn’t say “behave yourself with those who disagree with you” so they don’t behave themselves with those who disagree with them. Instead, he tried to get this blog deleted. So, they come to this blog and misbehave. They cannot possibly think independently. You see, they have stopped listening to anything that he doesn’t say.

    They’ve been programmed into thinking that anything he says is for spiritual growth and anything anyone else is saying is not for spiritual growth.

    He is more believable because he can make “suitable arrangements” for dates every Friday night. He can ensure that the atmosphere is alcohol-free, drug-free, and, smoke-free. He can also ensure that there are some Hindu rituals that are followed, even in a nightclub, so that whoever goes can return and claim it was all “very spiritual”.

    Now the follow up will be “satsangs” etc. Who needs a blind date when dating can be made so safe, secure, and, of course, “very spiritual”? Who wouldn’t pay for the services of such a wonderful “dating service”? The Right to Date, should, in fact, be included in the Constitution of India, as a Fundamental Right. It’s time AoL started a political party and fought for elections. It needs to be in power to address the aspirations of the youth in India at the national level. Everyone deserves a date on Friday night. Everyone deserves people to hang out with. Why should anyone have to think independently for that? It should all be available for a fee. How much work can one do? After all, someone who works all week in a job, deserves a break over the weekend. How can anyone work over the weekend too? That’s too much responsibility.

    You see, taking responsibility for one’s thoughts and actions is too much work. If SSRS is doing that work, why worry? I mean, if thinking for oneself is such a tiresome task, why do it? What did anyone ever get out of thinking independently? How many independent thinkers managed to get a date on every Friday throughout their lives? How many of them pleased God?

    SSRS, on the other hand, stopped thinking independently, stopped thousands from thinking independently, made pots and pots of money, became famous, travels to different countries, dances, sings, stays away from substance abuse, and, as of yesterday, even took Spiritualism to a nightclub. I mean, Hindu Gods must be clapping in glee. Lord Krishna must be especially ecstatic. He must be showering his blessings on SSRS for getting the Bhagvad Gita better than anyone else.

    Mahatma Gandhi would be thrilled to bits. This is precisely why he freed India from the clutches of the British, so that Spritualism could be practiced in and spread through nightclubs in five star hotels, and lead to unprecedented national development. After all, this was his vision for India, wasn’t it? In fact, AoL should launch a new product — an entire range of khadi swim suits for men and women! These could be the dress code for future AoL beach parties that promote Spiritualism!

    Of course, this “yoga rave” business is fantastic for the “hospitality” industry too. Corporates would be celebrating. But it’s the Karnataka Government which must be celebrating the most. Spirituality in nightclubs is the next logical step after watching “adult content” in the Karnataka Assembly.

    Way to go, AoL!!! Well done!!!

    – VSS

    P.S. This is fantastic for those below the poverty line too. I just haven’t figured out how yet. I think I need to go to a nightclub soon for ALL answers. How foolish of me to look for answers anywhere else!

  3. Harshal permalink
    February 25, 2012 6:11 pm

    “Mahatma Gandhi would be thrilled to bits. This is precisely why he freed India from the clutches of the British, so that Spritualism could be practiced in and spread through nightclubs in five star hotels, and lead to unprecedented national development.”

    VSS- its time for you to start taking lithium.

    • VSS permalink
      February 26, 2012 6:39 am

      @ Harshal

      You don’t think Spiritualism should be practiced in and spread through nightclubs in five star hotels ? You don’t agree with SSRS and AoL ? Oh!

  4. naren permalink
    February 25, 2012 6:26 pm

    mr. vss …..18500 (art of living tv)…..facebook(98,000)…twitter(34800)……..in minimum case 20,000 people have better mindset and thinking than a bunch of vss like people……i hardly found this website and struggling to go…………………..please don’t put silly comments ..without proof…….that even silliest…………….if your intention is good …..then people may consider ………otherwise , people compassionate about …..your mental state….i.e hatred and jeolousy with creativity…………

    • VSS permalink
      February 26, 2012 7:31 am

      @ naren

      Here’s the proof:

      In over 30 years, according to you, the maximum number of followers that AoL can claim is:

      18,500 + 98,000 + 34,800

      In over 30 years, according to you, the minimum number of followers that AoL can claim is:

      20,000

      Also, all the people in the world, who are not included in this list, are not a part of AoL. Right? Are you saying that all of them are full of hatred?

      You are. That’s because you’ve been taught that all those who are in AoL are not full of hatred and all those who are not in AoL are full of hatred.

      Haven’t you been taught this?

      If you haven’t been taught this, then what have you been taught?

      What is AoL’s official stand on people outside AoL?

      According to SSRS, how should you behave with people who are not in AoL?

      Have you checked with your local AoL center?

      Have you checked with SSRS?

    • Jr. permalink
      February 26, 2012 8:15 pm

      LOL, Naren proving exactly what I stating above. Another angry, bitter, agitated AOL person asking for “proof.”: Why don’t you show us proof this blog is wrong, Naren? 😉

      • Harshal permalink
        February 27, 2012 11:28 am

        @ jr: you are such an idiot to realize that he has a right to be angry, if he at all is.

        You guys are more bitter and angry, and have started this defamatory blog. What all you post on this–AOL causes “problems in heart valves” to AOL caused “my boyfriend to go away from me”.

        But Naren is right, and you dont seem to understand his logic. Its just 3-4 of you who seem to have a grudge against AOL while there are thousands who like it. Now you can use the Hitler analogy- “oh ya people liked Hitler too but he was no good”.

        This all blame game is just a soap/drama, thanks for entertaining others.

      • Jr. permalink
        February 28, 2012 10:01 pm

        Oh Harshy, I’d LOVE to hear all about Naren’s logic. Please enlighten us. 😉

  5. Dont permalink
    February 26, 2012 5:49 am

    “We would have countless examples of different cult leaders taking over different religions.”

    Serious question: What is the difference between a cult and a religion?

    • VSS permalink
      February 26, 2012 6:54 am

      @ Dont [February 26, 2012 5:49 am]

      The answer is here:

      https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/stages-of-cults-which-stage-is-aol-at/

      • naren permalink
        February 26, 2012 10:26 am

        your thinking …..illogic thinking…. you can enjoy in that type of thinking like a dog chewing a bone…..(eg for that thinking::if a door is half closed…it means….. it is half opened…, if it is fully closed… it means fully opened??????????????) ..IF SACHIN TENDULKAR HAS 10 LAKH TWITTER FANS …..THEN IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT………REST OF WORLD IS IN HATRED OF SACHIN……….EXCEPT FOR A BUNCH OF ILLOGIC THINKERS………….I WANNA EDUCATE ….AND IGNORE U…….IF I FEEL ENTERTAINING THEN I WILL AGAIN COMMENT…………MR.illogic thinker

  6. February 27, 2012 8:42 am

    Aol is promoting spiritual business not spiritual values.
    These days srisri want many touthtowork for him as teacher and mostly looking for full timer
    So two bird in one shot.
    This smart youth wil. Bring business according to your target and Guruis is developed.

    Tap the human values Sri Sri not trapping the Humanity!

    • naren permalink
      February 27, 2012 7:50 pm

      yes art of living is buisiness……marketing is better than getting money by charity………………………………..you have a world’s best product…..you keep secretly with u…IF you do not …….do any marketing or buisiness………….you are the biggest FOOL ON THE EARTH………….in normal buisiness: they take more and give you less
      in art of living buisiness:THEY TAKE LESS AND GIVES YOU MORE……………………..FOR…MANY IIT AND IIM FELLOWS IN “ART OF LIVING” ,IT IS DIFFICULT TO WORK FOR 3000 AS MONTHLY SALARY…………….AND LAST YOUTH IN ART OF LIVING ARE NOT AS FOOLS AS YOU…….LIKE BLINDLY WORKING FOR NOTHING….

      • stupidseeker permalink
        February 28, 2012 5:49 am


        you have a world’s best product…..you keep secretly with u”

        @naren

        And the secret is revealed if you are economically competent to pay the course fees. It doesn’t matter if you earned the money by murdering someone. HHSSRS isn’t going to see that. He will show the “secret” of the world’s “best product” if you are willing to pay. Right!

      • February 28, 2012 4:18 pm

        @ Naren
        In India there are many organisaztion do service with out looting people in the name of Giving more…
        A person feels happy when he relaxes, and when he is happy do show more happiness by selling more products.. you give more courses and sell ancient Vedic knowledge.
        SaiBaba, Matha Amruthanandamayi, BAPS..etc does much more service and make people happy.. but not by doing business in the name service and sprituality

        Wait and see the changes in the world in few years.. this fake Guru will be exposed…count on my dear.

      • Anonymous permalink
        February 28, 2012 5:14 pm

        Um, Naren, dude, please don’t tell Guruji that AOL is a business (guru-business) cause then he has to pay his taxes. That would be sad, no? And please don’t tell the local government either. It’s fun being tax free. What? Naren? Where you work you have to pay taxes? Geez, dude haven’t you learned anything from Guruji? There must be a work around. He found one. You could call yourself a charity maybe, then really be a person just earnng money?

  7. naren permalink
    February 28, 2012 6:58 am

    see,……intelligent person sees the intention behind the actions…….and fools keep on mugging with the actions…………..course fees may go…from 300 to 10,000…..according to ………the expenditure in that country………in india……it is 1000 to 2000 …..which is equal to the cost of dress you wear.(1 0r 2 pairs)……………….you will be the biggest crack or stupid, not seeker………… if you murder your friend for a pair of dress……….IN BEGINNING COURSES ARE FREE, THEN PEOPLE TAKE IT VERY LIGHTLY…….DUE TO IT IS FREE……………..and if u really want to really learn some good thing……….which can explore your life, and make you happy in remaining life……..2000 …is not a big deal…………..AND YOU CAN REPEAT THE COURSE FOR 400 TIMES FOR FREEEEEEEEEE…………..AND LAST………………EVEN NOW YOU WANT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE…….YOU CAN MURDER ANY ONE AND CAN DO THE COURSE IN PRISON (PRISON SMART COURSE….FREE FOR PRISONERS 1,23,345 DID THE COURSE AND TRANSFORMED)

    • Hari permalink
      February 28, 2012 2:32 pm

      hello naren, pseudospirituality is being “sold” to you as packaged spirituality… this NGO is one of the biggest scams on earth. The money being made is not channeled into development projects, but rather expanding the business of AOL…

      give me one good reason to have an AOL conference in a resort in Bali, in an Olympic Stadium in Germany, in a Cruise Ship in Australia…

      where was AOL, when the countless no. of people’s lives were misplaced and displaced in war-torn Sri Lanka?

      Where was HHSSRS when the recent cyclone – Thane struck and caused major devastation in Tamil Nadu?

      Would any of the second level or third level teachers/gurus and their coterie be prepared to run a seva in the slaughter houses of the big cities in India? Would you go to Afghanistan to alleviate their quality of living?

      What kind of sick person answers to a question that goes – How do you go about changing the mindset of the people living in a war-zone, like in Iraq or elsewhere? Your Beloved HHSSRS replies – “I would tell them, come, lets play”… no one other than a demented sick person would reply in that way…

      And the sooner you realize the cult you have sucked up yourself into, the better would be the rest of your life… don’t waste your money in this scam… your grandpas and parents know better about life… and go see the markets and railway stations and streets of your backyard, life you teach you gazillion better lessons…

      • naren permalink
        February 28, 2012 5:29 pm

        http://bawandinesh.name/category/qna/
        ALL THE STUPID AND GOOD QUESTIONS, YOU RAISED AND ….REMAINING FELLOWS RAISED ……….ANSWERED BY THIS GUY(A GRADUATE FROM IIT BOMBAY)

      • Hari permalink
        February 28, 2012 9:16 pm

        looks from your replies that you either had a troubled childhood or a pathetic English teacher or both… graduate from IIT does not mean, he has “two horns” when it comes to spirituality

      • Kitapati permalink
        February 29, 2012 6:00 am

        Naren is the best creation of YES+. He deserves a kiss from Bawa and Dinesh.

    • February 28, 2012 4:21 pm

      True colour os SRI SRI reflected in you …. wonderful 🙂
      The culture of Art of Living … Amazing to see this Naren.. keep breathing my dear… looks like you gone crazy by doing regular daily Kriya :)))

      • naren permalink
        February 28, 2012 4:28 pm

        yes i do weekly kriya,…you can touch my feet,,,,take my ashirvad freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeely…ok …got …it?

      • NAREN permalink
        February 29, 2012 9:04 am

        @KITAPATI
        mR PATI, YOU DESERVE KISS FROM ME DEAR!!!!!!!!!!, COME TO HYDERABAD

      • NAREN permalink
        February 29, 2012 9:16 am

        @HARI
        looks from your assumptions,……that you either orphan with jeolosy and hatered in mumbai or .STRICT .ENGLISH GRAMMER TEACHER IN TRIBAL JIMBAMBVEY REGION OR BOTH.)-)-……………………..NON IIT ……..ALSO DOESN’T MEAN ONE HORN IN SPIRITUALITY:-)-)…………GOOD TIME PASS HERE………THANK U FOR ALL…..PLEASE COMMENT AGAIN……)-)-.

    • Anonymous permalink
      February 28, 2012 4:30 pm

      Another incoherent rant using incomplete sentences. Why the exact number 400, are they going to charge from 401 onwards. Seems like naren is a newbie. 123456 or 123321 would be more fancier than 123345.

    • Anonymous permalink
      February 28, 2012 5:17 pm

      Yes, Narenbhai. I want it to be free. It’s free when Amritanandamayi Devi comes to Bangalore. Is she less than your SSRS? Not. Go spout your parroting of the AOL hardline to someone who doesn’t know. Those people suck you in, then make up more and more rules, give more and more work. Waste of my time. Even if the basic course has good knowledge, nobody in the organization seems to follow any of it.

    • Jr. permalink
      February 28, 2012 9:58 pm

      “EVEN NOW YOU WANT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE…….YOU CAN MURDER ANY ONE AND CAN DO THE COURSE IN PRISON (PRISON SMART COURSE….FREE FOR PRISONERS 1,23,345 DID THE COURSE AND TRANSFORMED)”

      LOL, this has to be the funniest/dumbest comment I’ve ever read on here.

      Glad to see this blog is thriving again.

      • Anonymous permalink
        February 29, 2012 3:02 pm

        LOL! So now murder is being encouraged to get the basic course? How bizarre and pathetic. Go to prison for murder. Costly mistake Get free AOL training. Costly mistake. Advice from one demented AOL HHSSRS follower: Priceless

  8. stupidseeker permalink
    February 28, 2012 4:06 pm

    @Naren,

    So if someone is desperate to do some AOL course and doesn’t have the money all he/she has to do is go murder someone and land in jail and then do the course for free ??? Wow. You really are an AOLite, naren. You really are an AOLite.
    But you forget that so many Indian and Zen spiritualists gave away all their insights and knowledge and philosophy for free and lived their whole life on the charity of others and never collected any money either in the name of charity.
    Firstly HHSSRS puts a fee on the knowledge and secondly keeps all his teachings under wraps.And then gathers around himself followers like you who defend him on both. Thats the genius of HHSSRS.

  9. naren permalink
    February 28, 2012 5:21 pm

    @stupid, not seeker
    see seriously………..you have attention defeciency….or brain malfunction…………WHAT YOU PUT ABOVE?….WHAT I REPLIED?….AGAIN WHAT YOU ASKED? WHAT I REPLIED..?….AGAIN YOU ASKED SAME.???????……PLEASE REFER ANY PSHYCRIATRIST R BETTER DO SOME MEDITATION. CAN U GUYS TELL ME HOW TO PUT A SMILEY?

    • stupidseeker permalink
      February 28, 2012 9:17 pm

      I’d rather visit a psychiatrist than meditate. But that’s one expense AOL people wouldn’t have to bear thanks to your HHSSRS being a “garbage collector”, as he once put it, for your mental deficiencies.

    • Hari permalink
      February 28, 2012 9:18 pm

      🙂 = colon – hyphen – right bracket… please do yourselves a favor – Buy yourself a Wren and Martin’s High School English Grammar and also, learn how to run a Spell Check/Grammar Check on what you write

      • Anonymous permalink
        February 29, 2012 9:02 am

        @hari
        THANK U, I WANT TO COME YOU , TO LEARN GRAMEER AND SPPELLINGS…………FROM U, CAN U TAKE ,….GRAMMMER COURSE FOR ME FREEEEEEEEEEELY…..AND U HAVE TO BEAR ALL EXPENSES…………:-)

      • NAREN permalink
        February 29, 2012 9:29 am

        I WANT TO COME YOU , TO LEARN GRAMMMER AND SPELLINGS………COULD YOU TAKE A GRAMMER COURSEs FOR ME FREEEEEEEEEEEEE, YOU HAV TO BEAR ALL EXPENSES….OK!!!!

      • Hari permalink
        February 29, 2012 2:17 pm

        naren, you are flipping out 🙂 … apparently the kriyas or YES or the money you wasted on AOL sessions had no effect on you I presume… you and Harshal would make a great entertainment package as the jockers from AOL

      • NAREN permalink
        February 29, 2012 5:35 pm

        @the grammer teacher, thank u for ur kind hearted ness,……please takeover care of your heart ,….it may melt because of ur kndhtdnss……………..you are not my PA, to decide the effect of that course,or that food,or that…….if u wanna work you can apply…………….JOCKERS CAN’T BE SUCCESFUL WITHOUT BAFOOONS(THE OPPOSITE TEAM)………THANK U FOR PLAYING SUCH A GREAT ROLE…………GIVING ME THE BEST TIME PASS BETWEEN INTERVALS OF MY COLLEGE……….YOU STILL HAVE TO TELL ME HOW TO PUT A SMILEY!!!!!!!

    • Chindu permalink
      February 29, 2012 6:08 am

      nAREN….BHYAAAAAA…jgd..lOVE YA..HOW IS SWAMI PRAGYAPAD…HIS HEART BEATING OKAY NOW ….GURUJI’S GRACE WORKING ON IT NOW NA….HMMMM. HOW IS SUKHI BHAYYA ..GURUJI STILL ANGRY WITH HIM NAA…HOW IS BHANU DIDI ..DEAR SISIE..IS SHE BACK TEACHING SAHAJ AFTER HYSTERECTOMY IN NARAYANAAA. MISS HER YA KNOW BHANU DIDI’S VOICE… AND HOW IS DINISH AND BAU.. WHAT GIFT DINESH BHAYYA IS GOING TO GIVE BAU ON HIS BIRTHDDAY AND MARRIAGE ANNIVERSY ..YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.. SO GREAT WHEN TWO IITS LOVE EACH OTHER… IF THEY WERE MAN AND WIFE THEY COULD HAVE HAD A SUPER IIT KID NAA….LOVE YA..JGD..ME TOO FROM IIT KANPUR…THIS BLOG IS FULL OF DUMBOS

      • Harshal permalink
        February 29, 2012 12:26 pm

        Chindu MASTER: LOVE YOU. HOW IS EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY. IF ANYONE GETS A HEART ATTACK MAKE A BLOG AND START WRITING ABOUT IT. IF ANYONE IS NOT GETTING MARRIED WRITE ABOUT IT AS WELL. WHEN YOUR MOM GETS OLD SHE MIGHT HAVE HER UTERUS REMOVED AS WELL BECAUSE 8% WOMEN GET IT WORLDWIDE. WRITE THAT ON THE BLOG TOO.

  10. visitor permalink
    February 28, 2012 7:32 pm

    I would like to express some general thoughts about “spiritual gurus”…whoever offers such courses like aol does…they take it for granted taht everyone will be benefitted by their course. if you go to their seminars they will try their best to get you in.
    to me it seems like they are dead sure that they have someting to offer to you…that you definitely need…

    if i were teaching someitng…i would teach that only to people who i belive will be benefitted by that…e.g. if i am teachiing how to make money..i will invite people who are relatively poor…and i wont invite people who have lots of money already (maybe i would go to them to learn how to make more money 😉

    i am sure there are people who have more (happiness, money, health, knowledge etc,) than aol guys have..but aol (or similar) people wont tell some people that you dont need our courses…neither would they openly go to someone (alive and not ssrs ally) to learn sth. relating to “life sciences” or spirituality..

    and as far as the course money is concerned..as ssrs says its will make people realise (and hence utilize better) the value of the course….perhaps they should impose a monthly fee for the rest of ones life to make them make good use of the course for the rest of their life…people like me forget the money they paid only once 🙂
    (and btw its now my idea (copyright, patented ;)….so it would condider it a breach If AOL ever uses this technique :))

    • NAREN permalink
      February 29, 2012 9:25 am

      @FOR ALL FREEEEEE GUYS(SILLY)
      WHY DON’T YOU GIVE YOUR VALUABLE IDEAS of FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EDUCATION TO mr kapil sibal………………………..WHO IS WASTING MORE THAN 10.000 CRORE RUPEES IN EDUCATION IN INDIA.)…………AND WAITING FOR RS.1000 AS ADVERTISEMENTS OR DONATIONS LIKE A PUPPIES…….

  11. Anonymous permalink
    February 29, 2012 3:07 pm

    Evidently, Naren, none of that money spent on education went anywhere near you, judging by your writing. Can you please unstick your caps? Or are you actually sitting at home shouting at the top of your lungs when replying on this blog??

    • NAREN permalink
      February 29, 2012 5:42 pm

      WITH THIS EVIDENCE, PUT A PIL ON ME IN SUPREME COURT…………….I’M WITH U……WHETHER I SHOUT ON THE TOP OF MY LUNGS OR BOTTOM OF MY BUTTOCKS……………IT’S NOT UR BUISINESS,,,,,,BECAUSE U ARE ANONYMOUS

  12. February 29, 2012 3:57 pm

    New trend of HHSSRS: Asking Naren and others to provide very bad and emotional feedback to this blog, so that reply will go to very bad and harsh languages. Any new memebrs looking at the sight should say this blog is full of uncivilised people…
    Good trending by Great Guruji and team…

    • NAREN permalink
      February 29, 2012 5:48 pm

      @MR CIVILIZED pupil
      THIS IS NOT A OFFICIAL BLOG OF WHITE HOUSE OR OBAMA…YOU ARE NOT A POPE JOHN PAL………………..WE ARE I.E OUR VSS TEAM IS WORKING FOR DAY AND NIGHT TO MAKE POPULAR………AND TO GET OUR DONATIONS AND FUNDS DONE

  13. stupidseeker permalink
    February 29, 2012 7:07 pm

    Harshal PERMALINK
    February 29, 2012 12:26 pm
    “””Chindu MASTER: LOVE YOU. HOW IS EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY. IF ANYONE GETS A HEART ATTACK MAKE A BLOG AND START WRITING ABOUT IT. IF ANYONE IS NOT GETTING MARRIED WRITE ABOUT IT AS WELL. WHEN YOUR MOM GETS OLD SHE MIGHT HAVE HER UTERUS REMOVED AS WELL BECAUSE 8% WOMEN GET IT WORLDWIDE. WRITE THAT ON THE BLOG TOO.””

    And will HHSSRS getting his prostrate removed at age eighty ever make it to the news Harshal??

    • Hari permalink
      February 29, 2012 7:44 pm

      by the pitch of HHSSRS’s voice, I would doubt that his prostrate would acquire anything pathological… as one of the most important causes is to have high levels of androgens and associated activity

  14. belle permalink
    March 1, 2012 4:08 pm

    Spiritual Council. Yup thats just what the world needs. A whole bunch of megalomaniacs together!

  15. Just B permalink
    March 20, 2012 8:53 pm

    wow a lot of I’m right! No I’m right No I’m right. i would think you all have better things to do with your time. all this back and forth gave me a headache and it is hard to take either side seriously. i guess i would have to experience art of living for myself to decide if it will benefit me. I wish peace to all of you – namaste

    • Dayalu permalink
      March 21, 2012 1:51 am

      Just B, guess you’re new to the blogging world.

      • Just B permalink
        March 21, 2012 1:06 pm

        good observation yes i am. i came here to get another side so that i am informed.

    • VSS permalink
      March 21, 2012 6:03 am

      @ Just B [March 20, 2012 8:53 pm]

      “i would think you all have better things to do with your time. all this back and forth gave me a headache and it is hard to take either side seriously.”

      I think AoL would be perfect for you. It is meant for those who get stressed out easily and want to be in a place where everyone is saying the same thing. It’s meant for people who cannot handle diversity. It’s meant for people who think it takes a lot of time to type and post a comment. (It took me less than four minutes to type and post this one.)

      But, even if it took longer, I find the activity very enriching. It’s good to study human beings and analyze how they behave and figure out what it is that makes them succumb to a cult. In your case, for instance, it’s the inability to handle the “stress” of reading an active discussion / debate on an interesting topic. You don’t seem to mind that a man like Mr. Ravi Shankar makes preposterous claims and cons people. Your worldview is limited to finding relief for your “headache”. Go for AoL. Experience what it’s like to be surrounded by people who say the same thing day in and day out and claim that they are doing so because one individual who heads one organization told them so. No debate takes place over there. If anyone asks a question, the individual is told not to question anything for the sake of not questioning anything.

      The organization and the individual who heads it will decide everything for you — from what makes you happy to what you should apply on your skin to remove dark spots. They’ll also decide what you eat, what you wear, who you make friends with, who you date, and, of course, who you hate. (They’ll also charge you huge sums of money for doing so.) All those around you will agree with you. Try it. It might just work for you. The world outside AoL is a free world. There is freedom of speech and expression in this world. People exchange ideas. If the mere exchange of ideas on a blog is so difficult for you to handle that you have a “headache”, then maybe the artificial world that AoL creates, where everyone agrees with everyone else because they are instructed to do so, might be perfect for you.

  16. Just B permalink
    March 21, 2012 1:30 pm

    VSS – what is your purpose? to help people make an informed decision or just insult them and be sarcastic? Yes people can get a metaphorical “headache” when spending time on the internet trying to make an informed choice. I would like help in doing that not to have your hate toward something put on me. If you truly want to help people like myself maybe try with a little kindness or you will just send us running toward the very thing you feel so strongly against. This was my point with the first message, people who are looking to be informed are going to come to this site right? and if it is a lot of tit for tat and sarcastic arrogance then the message may not get threw. I realize now that my original message could make someone defensive and that wasn’t a productive reply on my part (lesson learned). This may be a piece of machinery i am typing on but there are real people on the other side.

    • VSS permalink
      March 21, 2012 2:39 pm

      @ Just B [March 21, 2012 1:30 pm]

      WOW ! That’s a lot of RAGE ! You sound INFURIATED ! You sound AGITATED !

      I wasn’t being “defensive” at all. I meant what I said. It is a fact — people who get “a metaphorical headache” easily get great comfort in AoL. In AoL, “metaphorical headaches” are referred to as “stress”. The objective of AoL is to create “a stress-free society”. To this end, they charge large sums of money. In addition to “stress relief”, they also facilitate “happiness” and “enlightenment”. A lot of people do believe that this is true. They are real people. They don’t like this blog.

      Their comments are full of RAGE! They sound INFURIATED and AGITATED !

      If your heart says you should join AoL, you should join AoL. I am not here to prevent anyone from joining AoL. I am also not here to make people leave AoL. People do what their hearts say.

      I write here for people like me — who were about to join AoL but didn’t — because this blog contains moving accounts of how people were abused, deceived, and, exploited by AoL. I found the accounts on this blog moving beyond measure so I didn’t join AoL. The accounts didn’t give me a headache — metaphorical or otherwise. I respect the courage of those who had painful experiences in and because of AoL and had the courage to walk out.

      However, you are free to pontificate in a patronizing way. That is the beauty of this blog — you are free to express yourself here, but might I remind you, so am I.

  17. Sanjay permalink
    March 21, 2012 4:42 pm

    @Just B

    “If you truly want to help people like myself maybe try with a little kindness or you will just send us running toward the very thing you feel so strongly against..”

    No Just B u can’t expect it from the extremist.Common man is always ripped off either in the name of GURU or politician or fundamentalist or so called Critique in the name of free press.Friend even I am a victim of one such extremist like in this blog.I have full compassion and empathy towards you.

  18. Anonymous permalink
    March 21, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ Just B

    “wow a lot of I’m right! No I’m right No I’m right. i would think you all have better things to do with your time. all this back and forth gave me a headache and it is hard to take either side seriously”

    You are still blogging despite getting a headache. It is nothing new for these bloggers to be told to stop blogging on this site.

  19. VSS permalink
    March 21, 2012 5:14 pm

    “The best way to not read something (which, incidentally, you don’t have to pay to read) is by not reading it.”

    – Ancient Proverb

  20. Sanjay permalink
    March 21, 2012 5:26 pm

    Ravi Shankar always says,”Be like a child.”This is in consensus with an old proverb,”The best way to not read something is by not reading it.”

    Wow,like minded people(extremists) think alike.

  21. VSS permalink
    March 21, 2012 5:30 pm

    “We are all free to think what we like about anyone.”

    – Ancient Proverb

  22. Sanjay permalink
    March 21, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ Just B,

    Since you have come here for the purpose of making decision whether to carry on with AOL course or not,let me tell you my experience.I am very new to AOL.2 months back I did the part I course.The course was fabulous and Sudharshan Kriya experience was superb.But most of the teachers act like insurance agents and try to sell their product.Most of the things mentioned in this blog is informative barring some people who are annoying.

    Will expect some genuine guy in this blog to do some research on SK and point out the real pros and cons.As per my knowledge its just a mixture of Bashrikha and Kapalapadhi techinique of our Ancient Yoga.

    • Just B permalink
      March 21, 2012 6:07 pm

      Thank You Sanjay _/\_

      • Anonymous permalink
        March 21, 2012 8:04 pm

        Just B and Sanjay. I did the SK and got too involved with AOL. I didn’t want to be an “insurance agent” as you so aptly put it, Sanjay, so I left. Also, all the hypocrisy in so many of the teachers bothered me. They didn’t even practice the SK, and several of them were violent to each other and threw tantrums over small things. I felt I was actually getting more disturbed in that atmosphere, not finding any peace of mind. I agree that some of the basic course points are well worth observing and following, but you can read most of them for free in any scripture your parents have. Ask your grandparents. I found out that mine knew more than all the AOL people I met, and grandparents love as well 🙂 Art of Living seems to be just a money-making scheme to enrich Ravi Shankar’s family and a few main teachers who live well and have no other income than that. I don’t want to be involved, and glad I left the group. Too much ‘group think’ for me, not enough love, compassion and introspection. If you want spiritual growth, don’t look there in Art of Living or at Ravi Shankar for it. You’ll be disappointed. The people raving and praising to your face, I’ve heard criticize and make fun of the newcomers for being easily taken in behind the back! They don’t even believe in it but complain a lot about all the work they have to do rather than get a real job.

  23. Jr. permalink
    March 21, 2012 6:50 pm

    We all thought the course was fabulous at first. Over time, you see the bigger picture of what is really going on.

    Just B – No one here is going to try to force you to to believe anything. Rather than give you a response, I encourage you to read this entire blog and KLIM’s blog and decide for yourself. AOL has value, but it’s also very dangerous. There’s no need to make the same mistakes we did, but if you must, go ahead and take all the courses you can and get very involved with AOL.

    Also, this blog gets a lot of people that pretend to be seeking advice. I’m not sure yet if you’re genuinely looking for advice, or just someone trying to make AOL look good on this blog. Time will tell…

    • Just B permalink
      March 21, 2012 8:22 pm

      Jr. – understood and thanks for the advice, i have not looked threw the whole site. but was very turned off by VSS’s response which would have prevented me from looking further. My current yoga book was recommending art of living and i wanted to see further as i know that these groups can seem great but with shady sides too. peace

  24. Vikram permalink
    March 22, 2012 4:55 am

    SSRS in another controversy:

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/236367/parents-demand-sri-sris-apology.html

  25. VSS permalink
    March 22, 2012 9:05 am

    “Let not the presence of one individual prevent you from living your life the way you want to live it. Be resilient. Do what your heart says.”

    – Ancient Proverb

    “If your heart says you should join AoL, you should join AoL. If your heart says you should become an AoL teacher, you should become an AoL teacher.”

    – Modern Proverb

  26. Sanjay permalink
    March 22, 2012 2:57 pm

    @Anonymous,

    You explained in a very lucid and elaborate manner.Thank you very much.The reply to my 1st message on this blog was full of resentment(specially from one person).If it was not for JK,I would have thought that this blog does not value freedom of speech.

    I request that a new visitor to this blog must not be brutally attacked until he goes through the whole blog and gets enough knowledge.

  27. VSS permalink
    March 22, 2012 4:52 pm

    “Those who feel brutally attacked by one person’s words on a blog should not read that person’s words on a blog. Those who want to join AoL should join AoL. Those who want to become teachers in AoL should become teachers in AoL. Those who want to buy enlightenment should buy enlightenment. Those who want to sell enlightenment should sell enlightenment. The sale and purchase of enlightenment has not been banned yet. People should follow their hearts. People should be free to express themselves and let others express themselves. No one is compelled to interact with anyone else on this blog. If an individual’s freedom of expression seems like a brutal attack to someone, that someone should realize that his or her freedom of expression could be a brutal attack too.”

    – Modern Proverb

  28. Dayalu permalink
    March 22, 2012 7:24 pm

    Sanjay and Just B,

    In an uncensored blog of this kind, you will find all kinds of views and opinions. There are people who are extremely biased against AOL and people who are extremetly biased for AOL. If you skim through to earlier posts in 2010 and 2011, many of the people posting and commenting here had seen the organization very closely and you’ll find very logical and analytical dissection of the organization based on first hand experiences. A discerning reader will have the ability to skim through the noise and grasp the core message of this blog as it was intended to convey.

    Sanjay, from having taught Sudarshan Kriya for many years and having experienced the good and bad effects of the technique, I would just put a word of caution. Most people enjoy SK, but for some people, adverse side effects start to happen right away. Some others report bad effects after many years of practising. Agreed, it is not possible to categorically state that these bad effects were caused by SK without a thorough research, just as it is not possible to attribute health benefits to the technique. But the fact of the matter is that whenever such cases are brought to the attention, the AOL top brass make every attempt to bury those cases under the bush and/ or discredit the person/s who sufferred or reported. The research they publish as evidence for the benefits of kriya are mostly preliminary and conducted by researchers who are devotees. There is no single study conducted by an independent body. Also this is not an age old practice time tested for generations like many other schools of yoga like Bihar school , Iyengar, Sivananda, etc.

    Bottomline, enjoy the feel good while it lasts, but don’t take it for granted. Don’t believe in the tall claims made by AOL folks, most of those are wild exhaggerations if not lies. And be cautious about your health.

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