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An Interesting Perspective on SSRS and Enlightenment

May 2, 2012

by The Seer

The universe is full of beauty if only you know how to look at things, and universe is full of knowledge if only know how to look for it. Every moment is embedded with the highest wisdom, you can access it from within your own heart, you need not look for it anywhere else. Wisdom certainly need not be connected with a particular person or a book or a scripture. Yes, no human being is right about everything, and no human is wrong about everything.

Even the concept of ‘enlightenment’, I think, is over-hyped. Shunryu Suzuki said, “There are, strictly speaking, no enlightened people, there is only enlightened activity.” Enlightenment can be a state, there can be enlightened activity, and you can say there are people who can remain in that state frequently and longer than others. But you can’t label a person as ‘enlightened person’ and differentiate him/her from others. A person who thinks s/he is somehow more enlightened than others is no more enlightened.

When I think of how the AoL has come to what it has become, my impression is that it all started with good intentions. SSRS genuinely wanted to develop a process that can reduce stress in people. And maybe he mystified the process initially with the intention of making it popular. Things were good when he was still Pundit Ravi Shankar. And then it got popular, it got bigger, more courses came up, and when AoL found that there are people who ‘depend’ on their processes and courses, they got carried away by all the success. Course fees got expensive, dirty sales tricks were employed, ‘SS’ was added in front of ‘RS’, and then came ‘HH’ too…..

Some people posting comments in this blog trash SSRS and say he’s evil and all that. But I really pity him. When you are surrounded by people who always praise you and worship you and say that you never make a mistake, after sometime you inwardly start believing in them. J Krishnamurti said, “People use the guru as a crutch” and, “Leaders destroy the followers and followers destroy the leaders”, and here is your practical example. You can have genuine gratitude towards the person who has shown you the path, you can have genuine respect for that person in your heart. But if you put him in a high pedestal, worship him and make him different from others, you are only destroying him and allowing him to destroy you.

Of course, whatever I said about AoL and SSRS in the above two paragraphs is my own hypothesis, it could be entirely wrong. The real story could be worse or better, it could be something entirely different. I’m even open to the possibility that all that I think about AoL and SSRS is mistaken. The reality could be worse, or better, or it could be something entirely different.

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45 Comments
  1. Anonymous Atman permalink
    May 3, 2012 5:01 am

    Unlike popular belief, enlightenment need not be sought from a “living” guru, certainly not from a fame-seeker like Sri Sri. There have been enlightened masters like Sri Ramakrishna (Vivekananda’s Guru), Ramana Maharshi, etc. Their teachings are available, their lives are well documented (since they departed fairly recently, unlike distant masters like Jesus or Buddha), and unlike popular belief, these more authentic masters’ teachings are now “universal,” since they are no more “living.”

    And those who are serious about enlightenment from a “living” master can find one by seeking a “real” master / guru, certainly some AOL drop outs have realized that to be serious about self-realization or spirituality is to part company with the bearded Sri Sri. Like that old master Adi Shankara said: Udara nimittam bahu krita vesah… Translated, it means: for the sake of the stomach, many types of dresses… Growing a beard is certainly one of them. It just happens Sri sri has a big “stomach” for “success” and “fame,” and real spiritual success has nothing to do with worldly fame or worldly success…

    Cheers, and happy “seeking” to your readers…

  2. VSS permalink
    May 3, 2012 9:56 am

    Mr. Ravi Shankar came up with SK — claimed it’s a Divine Revelation. There’s no proof to support this claim. He then claimed it eliminates stress universally. There’s no proof to support this claim. He also claimed that it is scientific. There’s no proof to support this claim either. Is someone who makes all sorts of claims without proof worthy of compassion? Definitely. What about those who suffered as a result of those claims? Are they worthy of compassion? Yes, they too are worthy of compassion.

    For instance, if a thief robs a family, would one extend compassion to the thief? Yes, definitely. It is because of some misplaced notion about how to make a living that the thief steals. Would one extend compassion to the family? Absolutely. They paid the price for the thief’s misplaced notions.

    Is there a need to catch the thief? Is there a need to install an alarm system so that the thief does not succeed again?

    Picture this. There’s a software engineer working in Infosys who works day and night — sometimes even all night — to earn a living. The software engineer is exhausted by the end of the work day on Friday night. He or she has money but no relief. Someone who looks very “saintly” lands up in the universe of the software engineer and says something like, “Give me some money, I’ll give you peace.” The software engineer digs into his or her pocket, recalls the last appraisal (that didn’t go too well), recalls the last relationship (that didn’t go too well), recalls the last conversation with parents (that didn’t go too well), recalls the last night out with friends (that didn’t go too well) etc. etc. and says to himself / herself, “Yes, I need peace. If it’s about money, here’s my money. What did money do for me anyway?”

    The “saintly” person smiles and says something like “This is the best decision of your life. We have one rule in this ashram — you can bring all your problems but you can’t take any back.” The software engineer believes the claim without asking for any proof. He or she is too consumed by daily stresses to think about asking for proof. He / she thinks something like “Let me try this — maybe it’ll work.”

    The “saintly” person takes the money and involves the software engineer in certain “saintly” activities. After some time, the software engineer realizes that “peace” is priceless and cannot be purchased for a sum of money. The software engineer goes to the “saintly” person and says something like “I’ve done all the saintly stuff you asked me to do but I’m still not at peace.”

    The “saintly” person says something like “Well, that’s your fault. You’re the one who’s not doing enough. You’re the one who’s letting your mind wander. You’re the one who’s thinking too much. Your biggest problem is you. Do one thing — give me some more money — I’ll expand your list of saintly stuff — the additional activities shall cure you of you.”

    What does the software engineer do?

    The software engineer spends more money, more time, and more mind on what the “saintly” person is saying even though the “saintly” person has no proof to support his claims.

    Does the “saintly” person deserve compassion? Yes, of course.

    Does the software engineer deserve compassion. Yes, of course.

    Between the two of them, who is the underdog? It’s the software engineer. Who needs to be protected from the “saintly” person? The underdog. IMHO.

  3. Albela permalink
    May 3, 2012 5:26 pm

    643,086 hits on 3rd-May-2012. 10:54 PM. I spreading it and loving it.

  4. VSS permalink
    May 4, 2012 3:51 pm

    I find the first two paragraphs of this post particularly profound and perceptive.

  5. May 4, 2012 5:31 pm

    I find the last paragraph to be the best part!

  6. Anonymous permalink
    May 4, 2012 6:47 pm

    I can only go by my own subjective experience which was terrible. First I thought Ravi Shankar was enlightened, then found him to be a petty tyrant, egotistical, paranoid, fearful, silly and cruel. It’s hard to defend such things. Many people I know found him to be the same way and left. I was a teacher, and knew him well. I did not like what I saw over time, and saw him deteriorate. I regard him as a fallen yogi. I don’t believe he was always bad. But now he is. If someone has never known him really personally, I suppose they may not know any of this, or wouldn’t believe it, reading it. So get really close, live with him, know him, then talk about what/how he is. Otherwise, a person can only give their experience from afar, or as from one of his teachers. And that can be negative also, as I’ve read on this blog. Many of his senior teachers want to leave, but have said they have no where else to go. That should tell you something.

    • Anonymous (aka drpetersutphen) permalink
      May 4, 2012 10:03 pm

      Again, all interpretation and projection of attributes from your psyche. Tell us what he did in terms of concrete behaviors.

      • Anonymous permalink
        May 7, 2012 4:11 pm

        Yeah, right, and then have some court papers delivered to me and be sued for ‘defamation’? You must be crazy. Since the blog owners have been sued, do I really want to have to hire a lawyer to protect me for telling the truth? No way. Go ask him yourself. Get to know him, watch him, and then you will know.

      • Original Anonymous permalink
        May 7, 2012 4:57 pm

        Where is the issue abt court papers? Somebody just wants you to elaborate. Thats it ..

    • VSS permalink
      May 5, 2012 6:20 am

      @ Anonymous [May 4, 2012 6:47 pm]

      The following is one of the most compelling posts on this blog (IMHO):

      https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/ravi-shankar-satguru-or-businessman/

      Your comment reiterates many of the issues raised in the above post.

      I think sometimes that the issue is not whether there are spectacular people in AoL or not. I’m certain there are — just as there are spectacular people in the world outside AoL. I think people are spectacular irrespective of anything else when they are kind, compassionate, empathetic, sensitive and receptive. Can such people be psychologically manipulated? Of course they can be. No human being is above skillful psychological manipulation. My AoL experience was incredibly humbling — I learnt that one of the things that makes all human beings equals is their susceptibility to psychological manipulation. I make no distinction between anyone in AoL and me. There is no difference at all — and that is something that I am realizing more and more with the passage of time.

      Yet, why is there acrimony between certain people who have left AoL and people still in it? The answer is simple though by no means simplistic. People who have left AoL feel that people who are in AoL do not accept the possibility that AoL could harm someone.
      People who haven’t left AoL feel that those who have left AoL do not accept the possibility that AoL cannot harm anyone.

      I realize that my AoL experience cannot be and is not everyone’s AoL experience.

      However, I find that people who are in AoL and post on this blog, simply do not accept the possibility that their AoL experience cannot be everyone’s AoL experience. They reject this possibility. I find this baffling. How can a realistic possibility be rejected?

      I would really like to know why they think that in over 30 years, AoL hasn’t harmed anyone. I would also like to know why they think that in over 30 years, SK hasn’t harmed anyone. If they do acknowledge the possibility, then why do they get upset when someone shares a bad experience? Why do they launch a campaign against that person? Instead of that, why don’t they instead talk about their good experiences with AoL? Assuming for one moment that those who share bad experiences are full of venom, isn’t there a need for anti-venom?

      Then, why are they so reactive and nihilistic?

      Why are they cynical ?

      Why don’t they think that if they share their fabulous experiences with AoL, then those who are reading will change their minds?

      Do they have no conviction in what they have experienced?

      Do they not believe in their truth?

      What is it that they gain by targeting critics — especially non-entities like me. I am probably a below average malleable and ductile human being who was psychologically manipulated to the hilt. What is worse is that I was manipulated by someone who continues to be in AoL. I am pretty certain that the story of two weak and psychologically battered human beings has little or no significance. It took me years to recover from the effect of the “knowledge” contained in the “knowledge sheets”. Maybe I have zero intelligence and was simply unable to cope with the pressure of processing “divine knowledge”.

      Why does my existence and the existence of the one who manipulated me not point to the possibility that there are a lot of below average people out there who are simply unable to cope with the pressure of processing “divine knowledge”?

      Maybe I’m Forrest Gump — rather an impoverished Forrest Gump because I have no shares in Apple Inc. Maybe enlightenment is actually torture for me. Maybe all I can do is run. How does discrediting someone who can be credited with nothing help anyone or help them feel better about themselves? I humbly appeal to them to accept that I am one of those human beings in the world who think that Apple is a fruit company (and not waste their precious time in reading my comments).

      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNa4EMUWnAc)

  7. VSS permalink
    May 4, 2012 7:10 pm

    If no person is right about everything, then is the guru not expected to be perfect?

    If the guru is not expected to be perfect, what are the acceptable imperfections in a guru?

    If worshiping the guru could harm the guru, why do followers worship the guru?

    What are the acceptable imperfections in followers?

    What is it that can be considered a rational basis for concluding that a guru or a follower crossed the line?

    What is forgivable and what is unforgivable — both for the guru and for followers?

    If a follower extends compassion to a guru and forgives the guru for all imperfections, is that compassion helpful or harmful for the guru?

    If a guru extends compassion to a follower for all imperfections, is that compassion helpful or harmful for a follower?

    • May 4, 2012 8:12 pm

      VSS you sooooo need the keisaku, it ain’t even funny!

      • Anonymous permalink
        May 5, 2012 1:00 pm

        And you, Drpetersutphen, sooooo need to fess up and be truthful with yourself: why would you visit this blog if you didn’t have severe doubts in that little mind of yours? It ain’t funny at all.

      • May 6, 2012 5:34 am

        VSS, I was making a joke. You deconstruct the topic with so many questions that you don’t really seem to want answered. So, like a French post-modernist you end up avec rien.

      • VSS permalink
        May 6, 2012 7:17 am

        [it assumes intellect
        where there is none
        it sees questions
        as inimical

        round and round
        goes the human mind
        questions are not questions
        answers are not answers

        everything is a joke
        including credentials
        the infradig becomes a post modernist
        maybe aunts are actually uncles]

        shiva shiva…

        vikrit buddhi
        vikrit achaaran
        agyaan samaaroh
        moorkhta ko nimantran

        charitra
        chinha
        ahankar ka yog

        saadharan manushya
        dhongi ka bhog

        kalyug
        kalyaan ka vipreet
        prashna par prashna
        shaastrarth ka shadyantra

        mai bhikshu
        tu swami
        mai aadhaar-mukt
        tu niradhaari

        neeyam vyarth
        parinaam vyarth
        gyaan ka ant
        swaarth ka rath

        poorna prachalan
        sampoorna adharm

        moksha-vanchit
        mantra-heen mantra

        uchchaaran
        seva, sadhana, evam satsang

        hriday-heen hriday
        moh maaya ka yantra

        shiva shiva…

  8. Dayalu permalink
    May 4, 2012 8:40 pm

    VSS,

    Pleaaase…….please check your instincts to react to every comment posted here and to write paragraphs and paragraphs without having anything of substance to say. This kind of back and forth bickering could seriously undermine the value of this blog, even more than the comments of Harshal and company…Sorry for being blunt. But many people including Doctor and I have tried to communicate this to you, both directly and indirectly, but you just go on and on……

    • May 7, 2012 1:49 pm

      In this regard, I felt the same as Dayalu VSS. Thank you for allowing us the space to show you back to you.

      • sgje permalink
        May 7, 2012 3:01 pm

        @ Dayalu [May 4, 2012 8:40 pm] AND @ IO [May 7, 2012 1:49 pm]

        I really don’t know what you’re talking about. Your comment is extremely offensive and in very poor taste. Sounds like a gag order to me from someone who cannot tolerate someone else’s perspective or manner of expressing. Seems to me that you’re just inventing reasons for venting. As far as I’m concerned, I’m doing fine.

        As far as The Doctor is concerned, two of my longest comments on this blog went into moderation and I see that they have been approved. I don’t see how they could be if they diluted the value of this blog.

        Here are the links:

        https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/how-do-i-see-ravi-shankar-as-unethical/#comment-11627

        https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/double-edged-sword-part-1/#comment-11635

        Is it possible that you could be mistaken? Kindly reflect. If you don’t find an answer, please stop reading what I post or complain to The Doctor. Also, in the future, please speak for yourself. Not for others. Thank you very much.

      • VSS permalink
        May 7, 2012 3:20 pm

        Excellent! This is the best part about not being in AoL. We don’t need to say the same things in the same way. Thank God this blog is not a cult where the rules of the cult apply. Thank God there is no “Us” vs “Them” dynamic at play. I request you to continue to express your disapproval of all that I write whenever I write. People will know that we are individuals with different perspectives. Thank you so much “Dayalu” and “IO”. You are very Dayalu and IO you. 🙂

      • Dayalu permalink
        May 7, 2012 7:21 pm

        Who’s sgje?

      • Dayalu permalink
        May 7, 2012 9:56 pm

        Anyways, I had posted my comment 3 days ago, but for some reason it came up only today and it seem to have lost its context and relevance.

      • May 8, 2012 2:11 am

        @Sgie

        Thank you for expressing what you feel Sgie. And I salute the passion with which you stood up for a fellow contributor.

        I feel none of us need to justify anything to each other. Whatever I say is just one more view. I am writing to share with you….that it may not all be superficial…there could be more to it.

        Usually, I would not post anything like this. However, in the past, I have posted some direct ones at VSS…and also expressed some “subtle” in between the line messages for VSS and she got them all beautifully. She even sensed the feelings behind my words which I could read in her response. In my judgement, she would have received the critical comments from Dayalu and myself well, openly and completely…and yet she would do exactly what she wanted to do after that. It was not meant to stifle her in anyway from being herself. However, as a fellow traveller it was important to show her, because I know she cares about this and is constantly investing in improving herself (see her writing closely, you will see that most often she turns out to be her own worst critic).

        It is as typical as “The orange shirt looks terrible on you, light blue suits you far better”……..kind of comment to someone who is open to such input from you.

        So, to put things in context, we have some history, experience and well meaning in the post.

        According to me VSS is a good thinker and communicator. Some of the points she raises are actually brilliant. However, I am acutely aware that typical readers tend to develop a bias based on the writer. In the recent weeks, I sensed a qualitative schism developing between VSS’s good posts and some of her more “ordinary posts”. To me, that felt incongruent and had elements of wasted journalistic brand equity. I was attempting to share that with VSS. I only had her in mind when I posted. It was my way of saying I care. So, “GAG Order” is irrelevant to the picture. Who am I to gag anyone ? I am just one more visitor and occasional contributor. I think the same with Dayalu (unless there is a Blog power hierarchy and inner circle !!!!, which I am definitely not aware off….).

        @ VSS, even if you were hurt …I would have still have wanted to share my perspective with you. Repeat : Mine is just one more view. It need not be shared by any of the others, it may be shared by others. However, if it did hurt you, THEN my judgement about this specific instance was definitely clouded (ie I read you wrong)….and I shall refrain from all such future comments all together.

        @ Sgie, To put it in perspective, what do I have to lose ? or gain ? Whether VSS writes less or if she writes more ? The starting point (intent) behind an action is everything. A serial killer and a surgeon are both good with knives. One uses the knife to inflict pain the other to save lives.

        Be in peace Sgie….no ill will existed at that time or anytime. Thank you again expressing you caring. This message is written to only complete the view/picture. Enough has already been said.

        In any case, who are you Sgie ? VSS do you also write as Sgie ?… as the link references given by Sgie as his/her posts are your posts ?

        Thank you for clarifying.

      • Meditator permalink
        May 8, 2012 4:57 am

        VSS – I too fully agree with Dayalu and IO. Trust me I never read thru your posts completely. Too much negativity without any substance. Keep on posting as there may be some who like your comments.

        BTW – I’m not a follower of AOL or SSRS. Moved out just after a few months of association with them.

    • Anonymous permalink
      May 7, 2012 5:32 pm

      @ Dayalu and IO

      I agree with you and thank you for so aptly expressing what i had been thinking for a while now.

      • VSS permalink
        May 8, 2012 9:32 am

        @ Dayalu [May 7, 2012 7:21 pm], Dayalu [May 7, 2012 9:56 pm], IO [May 8, 2012 2:11 am], Meditator [May 8, 2012 4:57 am], Anonymous [May 7, 2012 5:32 pm]

        I would humbly reiterate that there are different kinds of people in the world — and there are as many different perspectives as there are people.

        You can’t possibly expect everyone who had an AoL experience to express the same thing in the same way.

        We are all individuals. We are not a team. It is not “US” Vs “THEM”. My reasons for critiquing AoL the way I do are not and cannot be the same as yours. I am an ordinary human being — not a journalist. I majored in History, not in English. English is not even my second language, it’s my third language.

        Why do you have such high expectations from me that I should be able to read your mind and write exactly the way you think I should write?

        I don’t have any supernatural powers. I am not enlightened. I don’t have any siddhis. I am a zero-IQ mere graduate. Please keep your expectations in check. And, please don’t read my dumb comments in the future.

        Please think of me as a brainless idiot who has no sense and ignore what I post. It’s a request. It’s not such a big deal. You can do it. Instead of attempting to control my mind and the words it comes up with, please control your vision. I would really appreciate that. Thank you. Have a lovely day and let me have a lovely day too.

      • Anonymous permalink
        May 8, 2012 1:17 pm

        Who IS Sgie?

      • Dayalu permalink
        May 8, 2012 3:19 pm

        @VSS,

        No one questioned your right to express your perspective, nor are there any concern about your style or language. These are great and you are an awesome writer. But you need to be cognizant that this blog is about Art of Living and not just about you or any other individual. In the past if someone wanted to go further than the main posts, there used to be great discussions in the comments sections and great take aways for any one new to this blog. But in the recent months that has not been the case. It has been more of verbal diarrhea (yes, I tend to agree with the term Harshal used, for a change) in the comments section and the concern is that COMMENTS WITH CONTENT WORTH READING ARE GETTING BURIED UNDER THE PILE.

        Your last response to me, IO, Meditator and Anonymous is an example of how you tend to totally go off topic. You did not address the points that we raised here, but rather chose to write yet another emotionally loaded prattle. And this is not the first or second time that someone has raised concerns. If you choose to, you could heed to the following suggestions and that would be great for the blog

        1) Comment when you have a point to make

        2) Be brief

        3) Stick to the topic so that the reader can figure out what you’re trying to say

        But of course you are at liberty to ignore these suggestions and continue the same way you’ve been doing in the past. Either way, good day to you!

      • VSS permalink
        May 8, 2012 4:23 pm

        @ Dayalu [May 8, 2012 3:19 pm]

        Please relax. No one reads long comments unless they are recovering from the traumatic effects of brainwashing and have average or below average intelligence — meaning unless they are people like me. People scroll down to shorter comments. If this blog is only for people who have already recovered from the traumatic effects of brainwashing and have above average intelligence, then please let me know. I shall stop posting here. Currently, I am under the impression that this blog is a refuge for all kinds of people who have suffered from brainwashing at the hands of AoL. If suffering is a factor, then I have suffered more than most who post here. If I could, I’d take AoL to court purely on devastating effects of the “knowledge” contained in the “knowledge sheets” tomorrow. If intelligence is a factor, then I am less intelligent than everyone else. So, please let me know. Thank you.

  9. Art of cheating permalink
    May 6, 2012 6:14 pm

    I have been following this blog for some time now. What brought me here ? I am not a member / teacher of AOL , do not attend satsangs regularly , do not practice SK yet am so familiar with all the AOL code talk and behind the scenes operations . My entire family are caught up in the AOL web of ridiculousness and for many years I wondered if there was something wrong with me because I just did not ‘get it’ . I went through years of psychological abuse from family members who told me I was not special enough and had very bad karma and that is why over the last decade I have not managed to be ‘touched’ (manipulated I believe) by SS his truly.
    Honestly, intuitively I always knew there was something not quite right with AOL, but I was resolute in my decision to not judge the family members who chose this as their path. I read comments on this blog , and although I do not live the AOLlife I can already resonate with so many of the comments just off the behavior of AOL members who I know- many of whom are teachers. I have NOT seen them become better as people, only more judgmental, manipulative and jealous of those who get to spend time with the God- man. They even fight amongst themselves if one of them gets to spend time with ‘him’ as it makes the rest of them feel like they are undeserving . truly remarkable that they cannot see how childish and egocentric their behavior is.
    Even had the honor of having Mr. Bawa stay with us once and he would sleep in till 2 pm everyday while we could hear him snoring all the way from the living room. He would then emerge from his beauty sleep saying ‘sorry I took so long I was doing my sadhna all morning.’ Yeah right. Who are you kidding. He would ask to gave his favorite dishes made for him and then when the time came to eat he just didn’t feel for it anymore. I mean, who are these people? who do they think they are? Why do the followers not see thruogh this? it just baffles me. The holier than though attitudes, the ‘you are not yet ready to live on a higher plane’ comments, the refusal to hear the non-aol opinions but expecting us to listen to theirs. I sincerely wish them all the best and hope that they are truly as happy as they pretend to be . I doubt that as sometimes they behaviour points to a dark and dangerous confusion lurking deep inside of them. Have so much more to say , but what’s the point. And it hurts to see friends and family become like this but, Live and let live I say.

    • VSS permalink
      May 8, 2012 7:00 pm

      @ Art of cheating [May 6, 2012 6:14 pm]

      I so wish that AoL would bring about reforms — I know at least one person who would definitely benefit from them — and I can tell, therefore, that the same reforms would benefit others like him. He is much like the people you describe — pretending to be happy but turning really, really bitter and cynical inside — “dark and dangerous confusion” — is the perfect expression to describe what’s going on in the minds of many. But I also know that many in AoL are not like that. It all depends on who a member connects with. I hear that there are some very spectacular people in AoL who are genuinely well-meaning. Yet, as you yourself have pointed out, there is much rivalry between many teachers and it manifests in the ways that you’ve described. I’ve read heartfelt accounts of those who have witnessed all of that and I can tell that those accounts are true. And, I have also seen several videos of Bawa and can easily tell what kind of person he must be. I’ve read his blog too. Your observations are not surprising at all. He is an extremely conceited person and an ace manipulator.

      Also, you sound like a truly sensitive and sensible human — it’s very magnanimous on your part to not judge your family. I hope that you extend the same emotion to yourself too. Please never judge yourself. I have been through similar abuse and am still recovering from the devastation it caused in my life. The details of my story are different but my guess is that the pain we have been through is similar in nature and intensity. I sincerely hope and pray that you remain as sensitive and sensible as you are. I wish you more courage and greater resilience too. If there is anything else that you wish to express, please express yourself. Don’t hold back. I shall read every word you write. I understand how it feels because I’ve been through similar abuse. There are several threads on this blog pertaining to several topics. Please share your experiences. You’ll be helping those who read this blog in the future. Your voice matters. Every voice matters. Don’t get intimidated by those who are trying to impose restrictions on freedom of speech and expression. Feel free to express yourself the way you wish. The people behind the blog encourage that. There are many who read silently who you will definitely empower with your words. Take care. Be well and shine on.

  10. Anonymous permalink
    May 8, 2012 1:27 pm

    @ Doctor

    I don’t know how the moderation bit works. I mean if someone posts a comment on the blog, it takes time for others to go thru it in order to respond to it. However, VSS comments in response to the posts reflect in a very short period of time and my posts would be on hold/ in the process of moderation though it was posted much earlier than the other posts. Could you please help me understand how this works? Thank you.

  11. Anonymous permalink
    May 8, 2012 1:45 pm

    @ Doctor

    Are you the only moderator of this Blog? And, is reklawyksekul@gmail.com id still active?
    I mean, can we get a response to the mails sent to the above id? Thank you.

    • The Doctor permalink
      May 8, 2012 3:45 pm

      @anonymous, in response to both your comments:

      In theory, every comment posted should require approval before being published, however this doesn’t always work in practice. I have a good feeling I know why, but alas I’m not going to share it with anyone as people will just start abusing this 😉 I’m not always around so it may take some time, but rest assured that eventually most comments will be posted.

      Also note that a lot of comments do end up in the spam folder and as I only check and clear that out once a week, some things end up being approved out of sequence as well as with a delay. Or not all if I deem it so!

      Yes, I am the moderator of this blog, the email id you posted is still active but is hardly checked and things that get posted to that are sometimes forwarded to me by the blog owner. If you ever need to contact me directly, you can do so on doctorfrombeyond@yahoo.com.

  12. Anonymous permalink
    May 9, 2012 6:27 am

    @VSS

    Who IS sgje? Is that you VSS ?

    • VSS permalink
      May 9, 2012 1:25 pm

      @ Anonymous [May 9, 2012 6:27 am]

      I’m truly sorry but it’s not possible for me to answer that question at this time — perhaps in the future.

  13. Anonymous permalink
    May 10, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ VSS

    Thank you for finally choosing to respond to the question. Now, as suggested by you, even if I were to control my vision, the content apparently posted by you? had a different psuedo name. Hence, the question. And, there is a valid reason for seeking an answer to this question. In the past we have had instances where people blogged under different names to support/ strengthen their views. This was ofcourse revealed to us by Whistle Blower / skywalker the then blog moderator.
    When we are questioning others (AOL’s) ethics, I think its only fair to make ourselves clear as well.

    @The Doctor

    When I posted a comment under the title “A Word About the Tone on This Blog”, I was online for a several hours that night. Every time I refreshed the page I could see only two people’s comments published – VSS’ and SS (stupid seeker’s). Now I understand that the comments posted by the both of them do not have to go through the same process that our comments go through.
    Thank you for clarifying. Your doing a brilliant job and I mean it.

    • VSS permalink
      May 10, 2012 5:58 pm

      @ Anonymous [May 10, 2012 3:38 pm]

      I’m extremely sorry but it’s not possible for me to answer your question at this time — I have my reasons — they’re protected by law. I have been advised not to answer this question. As far as this blog is concerned, please be very clear that it expresses only the perspectives of people. Even if someone says “such and such thing is true”, it is only the perspective of that person. As far as the said comment is concerned, it does not refer to AoL. Please don’t misconstrue and misrepresent information. The said comment merely contains links to certain posts. Please have faith in the innate intelligence of human beings to ascertain whether or not they wish to believe a perspective expressed. Please don’t be cynical. That’s my humble request. Also, if you wish to think that I am an unethical human being, not even God can stop you. Therefore, as far as I’m concerned, this discussion is over. Thank you. Have a nice day!

  14. Anonymous permalink
    May 10, 2012 6:30 pm

    @VSS

    Hello? did you read my comment VSS? I’m not asking you to reveal your true identity. As the comment that was posted under the name sgje refers to your posts, all I asked was if it was you who had also posted under the psuedo name sgje. In the past when the same blogger used multiple ids to blog, the truth was shared with the rest of the bloggers. That’s not going to put you in any more danger than using the psuedo name VSS.

    “Even if someone says “such and such thing is true”, it is only the perspective of that person.”

    who says no? Did I say no?

    “As far as the said comment is concerned, it does not refer to AoL”
    I was talking about the discussions on this blog of which you are an active contributer too.

    “When we are questioning others (AOL’s) ethics, I think its only fair to make ourselves clear as well.”

    Now That statement was to drive the point home about the importance of being transparent while contributing on this blog.

    “Please don’t misconstrue and misrepresent information”
    That’s exactly what you are doing.

    “Please don’t be cynical”
    Thats a bit rich coming from you.

    “Also, if you wish to think that I am an unethical human being, not even God can stop you”

    I don’t want to assume things. Hence I had to repeatedly ask you for an answer. And, its not just me. A couple of others have asked you this question as well.

    After all, I am only seeking clarification from thy humble self. Is it such a crime?

    • VSS permalink
      May 10, 2012 7:41 pm

      @ Anonymous [May 10, 2012 6:30 pm]

      Relax. Have a glass of water. Listen to some music. One comment from an “sgje” should not send you into such a spin. I have been advised not to answer the question — I have my reasons — I am protected by law. Feel free to assume anything you wish — no one can prevent you — not even you. Kindly spare me. Thank you. I appreciate your kindness in this regard. Have a lovely day! Take care.

  15. Anonymous permalink
    May 10, 2012 8:48 pm

    @VSS

    “Relax. Have a glass of water. Listen to some music”

    Dear, May be that’s some thing you should do before you post your comments or give your humble, compassionate advises to others. The tone of my posts doesn’t sound half as offensive as some of your compassionate comments do. You may want to read some of your comments again. At least the last one, please.

    https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/a-disturbing-aol-brainwashing-video/#comment-10629

    https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/a-disturbing-aol-brainwashing-video/#comment-10665

    https://aolfree.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/a-disturbing-aol-brainwashing-video/#comment-10770

    “I am protected by law” Hmm so is each individual blogging here.

    “Feel free to assume anything you wish — no one can prevent you — not even you. ”

    Why this emotional, evasive answer ? I only asked if it was you who blogged under the Pseudo name sgie ? A simple yes or a no would have done. That would have been enough. Why blow things out of proportion? Why spin things eh?

  16. VSS permalink
    May 10, 2012 10:03 pm

    @ Anonymous [May 10, 2012 8:48 pm]

    I have already apologized for those comments. I had said that all my comments should be deleted in the post about “the tone on this blog”. The Doctor and others suggested that they should remain as a reminder of my mistakes. I have also said that The Doctor is free to delete whichever comments he wishes. I have no objections. I have also said that I am a human being and I err as much as any other human being. I don’t know why you have such high expectations from me. I have very low IQ and I am recovering from severe trauma caused by brainwashing at the hands of AoL. I am a mere graduate. I barely passed. I apologize to you for my low IQ and the effects of AoL brainwashing. I cannot recover from severe AoL brainwashing overnight. Maybe others can. There are all kinds of people in this world. Just because someone has low IQ, will you keep on keeping on? What are you trying to prove? I don’t know what your problem is. I have said the same thing a number of times. I am a mere mortal — the merest of them all. Now, please spare me. It’s a request. Forgive me for my low IQ and low EQ. Just think I am one of those people in the world who thinks that Apple Inc is a fruit company. Stop beating a dead horse. Bye now. Take care.

  17. Unberable permalink
    May 15, 2012 6:48 am

    Please , i request you to shut up. Too much blabbering with out much knowledge is bad for health. My request for you is to keep control on you words. Thank you , for your consideration.

  18. Unberable permalink
    May 15, 2012 6:49 am

    The above comment was for VSS. Sorry forgot to mention that.

    • VSS permalink
      May 15, 2012 9:50 am

      @ Unberable [May 15, 2012 6:48 am] and Unberable [May 15, 2012 6:49 am]

      I request you to share your precious perspective on SSRS and enlightenment. All readers will benefit from your precious words if you kindly share them. It would be very nice if you could lead by example — by sharing your knowledge in words that make sense. I thank you for your consideration in this regard, and send you my regards as well. I apologize once again for my useless words — I am still recovering from severe brainwashing at the hands of AoL. I’ll try my best to recover sooner so that you may be able to contain your rage and focus on the topic of this thread — which happens to be not VSS — but SSRS and enlightenment. Have a gorgeous and inspiring day!

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