Sudarshan Kriya Download and Notes
NOTE: Please DO NOT ask for anyone to either provide a link to the Sudarshan Kriya MP3 or to email it to you. Any comments of this nature will be removed.
An alternative to SK is available freely, please see this post for further details.
The Long Sudarshan Kriya can easily be downloaded in mp3 format, for instance here or here. A note, though: downloading copyrighted material is illegal. As owners of this blog, we hereby state that we have not copied and distributed the Kriya. Readers of the blog have found the links, and made us aware of their existence. We also wish to point out that the Kriya tape seems to be easily copied, contrary to the beliefs in the Art of Living, that said action would be impossible, due to the Guru’s “grace” or “shakti”.
Even the instructions for 3-stage Pranayamas, Bhastrika and Om-chanting are out there, for those who want it.
Sudarshan Kriya Notes
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On August 25th, 2010, posting on the blog was disabled by WordPress, with the following warning: We have a concern about some of the content on your blog. Please click here to contact us as soon as possible to resolve the issue and re-enable posting.
I wrote back:
Dear WordPress,
I understand your concern and your decision to temporarily disable postings on the blog. In the interest of free speech, though, I kindly request that you enable posting again. The blog is an important resource for many ex-Art of Living members, who need a forum to discuss and make sense of their time in the organisation. I would like to stress that we are not defaming anyone, or breaching copyrights. The so-called “Kriya Notes” are handwritten instructions, passed verbally and without any written agreement to keep unpublished.
Should you, however, insist that I remove the said notes, I will of course do so.
The comment below, posted on the blog recently, gives you an idea about what we are facing.
Best regards
Skywalker, Blog owner.
Aol Mole permalink
August 26, 2010 2:45 am
I am a teacher in AOL and work in sumeru. Just on the fringes not able to leave as I am financially dependent on AOL.
Just to let the blog owners know here. Sri Sri has directed a three pronged attack on this blog last week. He has said that this will silence the critics forever. This attack has been planned for last two weeks by Sri Sri inner circle with many teleconferences and personal meetings.
The three pronged attack on critics:
Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva
Brahma – Ajay is incharge of this. Create testimonials blog. highlight only positives. no outlandish miracles to be showcased but just stress redution of successful and happy people. put photos to shame annonymous bloggers. good proof reading. form team of editors for Ajay’s blog.
Vishnu – Batliwala is incharge of this role. This role shoud enable to bring order through the fear of law. batliwala to send notices to blog owners for copyright infringement and defamation. create fear in the people who write and comment on this blog. Kriya and teachings secret to be protected at all costs. As it is lifeline of AOL.
Shiva – Swami Sadyojatha to start ripping apart the critics and finishing them. label the critics mentally unstable. start naming some ex teachers from Europe and two women in India. Do not focus on too many ex-teachers from India. as India is a base and that needs to be protected. Target women teachers as they are more hysterical. Create web seva warriors to attack all blogs and protect wikipedia entries etc. The mantra is ‘har har mahadev’.
This three pronged attack was commined to start on the auspicious day monday Aug 23rd.
I will send more details later.
I got the following reply from WordPress:
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To wich I replied:
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I have removed the contested material from the page https://aolfree.wordpress.com/secret-aol-knowledge/sudarshan-kriya-notes/, so please enable posting again.
Yes, I wish to formally challenge the DCMA notice, please provide details.
Best regards,
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We are a registered public charitable trust founded by His
Holiness Sri Sri Ravishankar (His Holiness).Our head office is at No. 19, 39th A Cross, 11th Main, IV
T Block, Jayanagar, Bangalore – 560 041, Karnataka, India.Through our authorized Teachers we teach courses/programmes
designed by His Holiness (popularly known as the Art of
Living Courses) all over the world. Through the Course we
teach a breathing technique developed by His Holiness called the
Sudarshan Kriya (“the SK Technique”). The beneficial and healing
effects of the SK Technique are well known and well documented.The SK Technique is taught by us to the course participants only
through authorized and well trained Art Of Living Teachers. The
authorised Teachers are provided an instruction manual known
as the Sudarshan Kriya Notes (“the SK Notes”). These Notes
are strictly confidential and are read out to authorised
Teachers who copy the same in a note book. All such
teachers undertake to keep these Notes strictly confidential. The
Copyright in these Notes belongs exclusively to us.A blogger with a blog on your platform at
https://aolfree.wordpress.com
address has without any authority published these SK Notes on
the said blog. This is an infringement of our copyright and also a
serious violation of our right to keep the SK Notes
Confidential. It appears that the blogger concerned has
obtained a copy of the SK Notes in an unauthorized/illegal manner and
is now misusing the access to the same. Even in case by any chance the
blogger is an authorized teacher, such person is (in addition to the
infringement) in serious breach of his/her undertaking to keep the SK
Notes confidential.Any misuse of the Notes by any visitor on the said
blog could cause serious harm / injury to others, in the
event any attempt is made to teach the SK Technique on the
basis of and pursuant to the unauthorized publication of the SK
Notes on the said blog.We therefore request you to forthwith ensure that the SK
Notes are deleted from the blog mentioned above.We reserve our right to institute appropriate legal proceedings for
infringement/violation of our rights.Please note that since the infringement in question is
serious and can even cause injury to others, we are
addressing this complaint to you simultaneously with a direct
communication to the blogger. We trust that you will extend
your full cooperation to help us protect our rights. Also
since, the blogger is engaged in a defamatory campaign
against our organization and our founder, with malicious
intent, we do not expect the blogger to co‐operate.A copy of the SK Notes published on the said Blog is
pasted below for identification. You are requested to keep
the same strictly confidential. The link to the page on
which the SK Notes are illegally published
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blogger is not authorised by law or by us (i.e. the copyright owners)
or by any agent of ours. We further declare under penalty of perjury
that all information contained in this notice is accurate and that we
are the owners of the copyright in the SK Notes.Vyakti Vikas Kendra India
Yezdi J. Batliwala
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yezdib@gmail.comVyakti Vikas Kendra India,
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11th Main, IV T Block,
Jayanagar,
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Beyond The Art of Living 
Kriya notes circa Bali 2009 – home kriya notes add more about pregnancy – that pregnant women should not do bastrika, and that they should not do long kriya after the fifth month. They can however do kriya in labour. It also has a section on children’s kriya.
“Kriya” means “action without an actor”; the root kri also means play, joy, action, to be happy, creation… – I’m jealous – I don’t have this in my notes!
This teaching came up after ten days of silence that Guruji took in 1982, March 4th and 5th days of enlightemnent. – He is called Punditji in mine and does not mention enlightenment!
I have had a cuppa and a choc chip biscuit while reading these notes – can’t be as lethal as chewing gum.
A few years before I did my first course I was studying a complimentary health disicpline and we did the long kriya tapes – they had been copied and the sky did not fall in on any of us. My teacher simply told me to follow the instructions of the man with the funny voice! I was surprised when I did my first kriya on my first course to discover I had done it twice before!
You have done a good job putting these notes. Would it be possible to put the other teacher training notes related to sectional breathing, bhastrika and alternate nostril breathing. And the notes related to how to run group process in basic course.
thanks
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
wow! Kriya Notes! Whoever wrote this blog, you better have a damn good lawyer behind you!!
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
A friend of mine pointed me to this website. I am hoping whoever is the author of this website is aware of the copyright laws of the United States, especially if the Sudarshan Kriya Notes are copyrighted.
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html
Are the kriya notes “copyrighted”. AFAIK, sk is only a trademark.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
To the best of my knowledge they are copyrighted. Not just that, I think teachers even sign an agreement.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Of course they are copyrighted. You have to sign an agreement for this. AoL is likeAapple-some love em, some hate em, some think it is == GOD…..Some try to get some brownie points (gizmodo’s iPhone 4G revelation==this blog’s revelation!)..But yeah-apple chased down gizmodo…..what will AoL do? -They have the full legal right to go behind this blog!
“AoL is like Apple”
What a joke. One of the hallmarks of Apple’s products is the originality. To compare a fraud organization to such a great company is ridiculous to say the least.
The practices of AOL are plagiarized from several different sources – rebirthing, TM, Kundalini Yoga of yogi bhajan and so on. About their so called knowledge Ravishankar cannot hold a candle in front of other indian gurus like Osho and Krishnamurthi. The only thing AOL is good at is maintaining some eerie secrecy about well known yoga techniques and build up a mystique around it.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Ha Ha Ha! Apple is original- What is original in an iPhone? Its the packaging and user experience! Its that simple….Same goes for Sudarshan Kriya. At least it helps people unlike the haters spreading hatred under the name of healing on this blog!
Naveen Acharya…Shame on people like you..People like don’t live happily & want to change either 🙂 You’ll are born w/ complains & die w/ complains. These Org.’s have helped several people in many ways…Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is a good man & his intention is to help people. I have been volunteering since 5 yrs in this org. & it helps me heal….Giving is so much fun…People like you will not understand…you will only enjoy criticism & negativity 🙂
“They have the full legal right to go behind this blog!”
What balderdash. It would be fun if AOL does this. Even the name of sudarshan kriya is a lift from Yogi Bhajan’s Sodarshan Kriya (it means the same with a slight change in spelling in english). Yogi Bhajan taught his SK in 1970’s before Ravi Ravi started growing his beard.
AOL will never ever go against blogs like these as they will be exposed of their true colours all the more. All that AOL can do is ignore and hide like ostriches about this blog till it goes viral. cook up some fake stories about their popularity. Make their senior teachers who come in as trolls disguised as thrid party observers to comment. In short, AOL does not have the balls to go against this blog.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Yet another post from possibly the same guy under different IDs? You think AoL has anything to lose by going behind this blog? If you think so you are silly. And I am no “senior teacher” or even a teacher. AoL just doesnt have time fot this type of non-sense. But I think they need to go after people like the one who wrote this blog and set a precedent!
Wait and Watch!
“But I think they need to go after people like the one who wrote this blog and set a precedent!”
yes it is time we did that. Use guruji’s international connections. use interpol. get kilm and co arrested and send to hard labour in concentration camp. gas them and turn them into soap. guruji will materialize the perfume from his armpits. we create rose, jasmine, sandal and lavendar soaps. sell soap under sri sri ayurveda. we will make more money.
Dear Skywalker …. can you delete my comment .. @ Dsnteacher…. read his comment in hurry..and misinterpreted it .. thanks .. regards…. OASCS
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Just shows your ignorance..Mr Naveen Acharya! I think AoL has been silent about this blog just because they thought it was too immature. I think they should go after the copyright violators and also those who support copyright violators. Hiding behind a random ID does not protect anyone against the law. These days the internet is sophisticated enough to track down every one.
Dear Annonymous from AOL. Let me confess. I have posted several comments
against AOL and Ravishankar (sorry HHSSRS, peace be upon him) in several forums due to the bad experience I had in AOL and their financial misdealings. Would the police start tacking me down my dear. I even downloaded the full maha kriya MP3 from a free torrent download site and gave it to a collegue who wanted it. I am just shivering now with you making me aware of sophisticated nature of internet which will enable police to track down sinners like me. What should i do now to atone for all the sins I have commited. Would thithing to AOL help. How much should I give and what percentage. Can i silently pray to HHSSRS and beg for forgiveness and HHSSRS being the all knowing almighty divine force as I was told forgive me.
I am sure there are several hundred others like me who would face both the moral, spiritual and the police onslought for transgressing the hallowed teachings of HHSSRS (peace be upon him), is there a way AOL can help the lost sheep to come back and make amends.
You have from your learned comments on the law and nature of internet induced such great fear in us that even doing the pranayama (yeah without the grace of HHSSRS I know) isn’t helping. Can you or any other from AOL be kind enough to assuage us of the fear which you helped create by your learned comments err threats. Or are we doomed to suffer from this hell with no salvation in sight. Can you stanford educated brain help.
I belong to you (courtesy AOL and HHSSRS, copyright acknowledged for using this amazing secret phrase)
Jai Gurudev.
Heil Guruji
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
I think that some of the AoL folks are of course over reacting here. If there is something illegal here (I dont know about the exact nature of the copyright), AoL should go after this else not.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Nothing wrong in posting comments giving feedback, expressing strong opinion. That is all fair game.
What is wrong- Writing instigatory acts related to a person’s life (KLIM’s blog overstepped that line), posting or promoting illegal copyrighted material. I dont know how this has become rocket science.
Get your facts clear dude!
“I even downloaded the full maha kriya MP3 from a free torrent download site and gave it to a collegue who wanted it.”
You are commenting here on somebody else’s credibility. What credibility you have? You are very proud to say that you did something which a good person who talks about others credibility should have not done. Good & Great Work done by you Mr. GOD BLESS YOU
The AOL police force have arrived. If these blogs are of no consequen ce the AOL police force would not be spending time here giving their silly comments. We are all waiting for AOL to take their legal action. Just waiting for the fun to begin.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
There is nothing silly here – Legal action can be taken where appropriate
The secrecy agreement of AOL teachings will have no standing in any court of law. In india, You do not sign any legal agreement on any stamp paper. I guess it is the same in the west. It is just some printed paper you sign in and many of these are shredded and not archived by AOL. Most people do not even read what is written. The teachings are quite common place and popular and there is hardly anything in there which is original and not found in other popular yoga and self development groups.
The AOL trolls commenting have only exposed their idiocy, lack of general knowledge and their cult indoctrination.
Anon says ‘I think AoL has been silent about this blog just because they thought it was too immature.’
Well, we have seen how mature they are in the Dog firing case.
DSN Teacher
What utter rubbish are you talking? You seemed to have lost your brains and your senses. Do us all a favour- either post something intelligent or dont waste your time visiting this blog – pure kindergarten mentality – is this what your Guru has taught you?
good evening sir, iam jithu i did the art of living basic course. iam a student and i had many stress in my life… after this course i gt consolation from all unwanted stress. so i shared all the things with my friends. once they asked to me “how to do sudarsan kriya”? so i explained about the breathing technique. now i have little fear…is there any problem for teaching sudarsan kriya? plz reply me..but im very happy for 1 thing my all friends are ready to do the basic course…
Hi Jitu,
I have done all the courses in AOL. ( Basic, Advanced, Sahaj Samadhi, DSN, Eternity etc…..) Absolutely Nothing will happen if you teach it. AOL teachers scare people saying one shouldn’t teach Sudarshana kriya because they won’t get new people to take up the course. No people means NO MONEY generation.
In AOL they ask devotees not to share any information because of this reason.Just to generate money they say this way. Even if your friends are taking up course ask your local area AOL teacher to offer this course freely and tell them not to donate any money.
Cheers.
Dr Quentin Jones,
I agree, when you say that DSN teacher “has kindergarden mentality”, but there is more to it than that. This person has also fascist mentality, saying about sending human beings “to hard labor in concentration camp. gas them and turn them into soap.” It’s scary.
So, people, who are thinking about taking DSN course, or any other course in AOL, beware and be aware that this person with fascist mentality may be your teacher. And he is not the only super aggressive teacher in the organization. I met a number of them, especially, among senior teachers. This kind of people are promoted fast in AOL by RS. Birds of feather flock together.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Anyone even with a pea sized brain would understand the sarcasm behind the DSN teacher post–Facist, racist etc- LOL!!! Learn to appreciate some humor svetana and quentin!!
That guy was being sarcastic Svetana 🙂
And outright hilarious too. I couldn’t stop myself laughing aloud reading DSN Teacher’s post.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Looks like this Dr Quentin Jones whoever he is is being paid to post anything anti-Hindu! Check out his posts on many blogs!
Quentin Jones-And add a Dr title in front….These christian missionaries have no end! 🙂
The AOL threat for legal action is very similar to the one Nithyanada disciples provided to the expose nithyananda blog. The blog had a countdown on the number of days of the threat. Hope we can have a similar countdown here till Ravi Ravi is exposed completely.
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Let us not compare Nithy with SSRS- SSRS is definitely not a womanizer. He has been around for 30 years and is friends with most international leaders. SSRS has questionable things to deal with at the moment but let us not forget that AoL was the one who initiated the police complaint…As i mentioned in my other post, they have opened themselves up for investigation and if there is something wrong on their side, they will be held accountable. On the other hand, they may well be exonerated.
Legal action is not something to be made fun of or made light of. As a lawyer myself, I can state with a reasonable amount of authority that whoever has posted the sudarshan kriya notes and endorsers of the post do open themselves for legal action from AoL and possibly Copyright Protection Agencies around the world. There are so many examples where even the most sophisticated copyright content violations against possibly the most dubious organizations have been given judgements as per the law.
Anyone and everyone pays the price for taking the law into their hands. This applies to SSRS to and to this posting and the endorsers too.
@Inc.
You state that you are a lawyer. Let me doubt it. Even if it is so, you judgment cannot be trusted at all and your “reasonable amount of authority” is just your imagination, because you lack Common Logic.
You write: “Let us not compare Nithy with SSRS- SSRS is definitely not a womanizer. He has been around for 30 years and is friends with most international leaders”, as if international leaders cannot be womanizers??? By the way, are you a graduate of Sri Sri University?
(aka KLIM-Student wrote:)
Ok folks, I think this blog is becoming a Joke rather than anything serious. Looks like people are more interested in bashing each other on this blog than focus on any real issues.
The reason it is becoming a “joke” is because you AoL-ers are hell bent on coming up with warped logic to support Ravi. By definition, AoL is a CULT. Any kind of cult is unhealthy. There is an insistence from AoL-ers to crush any kind of dissidence. Tolerance level is zero. AoL-ers view Ravi as GOD fit for worship. Their view is that AoL is corrupt free. Whereas those who have opted out of the movement have had a different experience. Are you saying that their experience was wrong/ invalid? The clear objective of this blog is that this is a place for those who have left the movement and who are badly bruised , a chance for recuperating. Recuperating from what? From betrayal of trust/ spiritualism. As you are still with the movement, how will you realize the extent of hurt? When there is mention of corruption, that is what the person has seen. Not hearsay but experienced. As a teacher, that was what I saw in the ashram and local chapter. The way AoLers respond to criticism is like FUNDAMENTALISTS. I have been with Ravi when he has made fun of Ramdev or Goenka ( vipassana). Your Guru and you need to learn to be more accepting of other people’s spirituality. Ravi is intoxicated with power, greed. How do you explain the need for Nobel or the desire to be invited to the White House? Have you been with him after the end of a “maha satsang”, I have. He is more interested in knowing how many attended, list of celebrities and how he looked. Are you saying what I saw was wrong? The following day, he wants to see if he has been mentioned in the papers. Is that not lust for fame? And as far as copyrights issue goes, if there are good lawyers on AoL panel, do you think the “dissidents” do not have access also to some? The tone is threatening from AoL-ers.
I’ve heard from my friends(who have done the courses) that Aol-ers who did the advanced courses can see their past lives [something like 7 prev . births or so] , is it some belief spread by the teachers or SSRS? and have anyone got some incidents where they try to spread superstitions/irrational beliefs among the followers?
Yes, there is a different course for this. It is called Eternity Process. Its paid course for 3 days, with precondition of Sadhana of specific days and doing some Advanced /DSN etc.
You can know your past birth(s) as they claim. My Advanced Course teacher said he know his last 7 births, at that time I believed him. Now, its look Cartoon Show.
JAN
I do not have my SK notes here. However, my recollection is that in those notes, there IS a mention that by doing SK the debt of 7 past generations is getting cleared. Also, the future 7 generations will reap the benefits of SK. i.e- this seems to happen with EVERY SK done :-))))))))))))))
Thanks Roger n Mojo, I was googling for “eternity process” and ended up in this blog, seems quite out of the world 😉
http://vishwasalka.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-freedom-with-eternity-process.html
Something I wonder is why people are trying to find a guru, and then become part of an ashram etc.. is that a search for a guide? or to be a member of something that you are not feeling alone? or to escape the competitions in life? or to find solace from some grief?
If it’s spirituality why all the hype about the guru? Its supposed to be a way of life right, and with no strings attached what’s the happiness they are trying to find? isn’t it just hallucination ?
Just a rant 🙂
Many ex-AOLers did go sincerely seeking a guru when they first met SSRS. Unfortunately, what started out as something that appeared to be a small group of people wanting to know Truth and God, morphed, over time, into a huge Guru-business as it seems to exist today. As I saw it start to happen, many years ago (before anyone signed anything like ‘legal’ docs to teach SK), I left, seeing that there was not going to be any Truth to be found there. SSRS (He gave himself the ‘sri sri’ moniker, btw, saying that it was what Maharishi used to call him), and he was not always called that, or even ‘Guruji’, long ago, lost whatever goodness and love he had in his heart and fell to the sway of name, fame, glory, and whatever else is mentioned here on this blog and others I’ve seen recently. The few old-time teachers and followers who remain, appear to have been ‘cloned’ by SSRS, dressing like him many times, faking up accents which didn’t even exist before, etc. It’s very sad. It appears he is simply a fallen yogi, who has fallen hard and fast and far. I don’t even know the many of the people mentioned in this blog, as they came after I saw the disintegration beginning and left before their arrival. Of course, some of the administrators mentioned are the originals. And of course, the family always ran the whole thing, and I saw them go from relative poverty to increasing wealth as this started to grow into a business. Because the person is dead, I will not site a name, but someone extremely close to SSRS told me in ‘confidence’, very early on, as foreigners began to come to the ashram which was being built up slowly that SSRS had “over 1 million US dollars in his private bank account now!” And was very very proud of this fact, which was inside, private knowledge this person had access to. I was shocked and horrified, knowing where the money had come from: ‘donations’. That was a long time ago. Just like mafia dons, that money has been made “clean”, it appears, by buying real estate and making companies and placing those companies in the names of his nephews and who knows who else. Just as many illegal activities are hidden in the US this way for years and decades, sometimes forever, it is even easier to hide and bribe away these sorts of activities in India.
It is very sad for all who have gone looking for answers to the sincere question “what is the Truth” and stupidly believed that this man HHSSRS as he now calls himself, could ever have done anything but misguide them.
Unlike many of the people whose posts I’ve seen here, I escaped relatively unscathed after a short time, and took up a normal life, AOL-free. I never even realized all this was going on until these blogs posted up after the ‘shooting at stray dogs’ incident. The magnitude of fraud today amazes me! Having seen this family, knowing their background, it is simply not possible that these companies that are now “legitimate” came from anything but stealing donations intended for other uses. I doubt very much that people were asked “please help my family become wealthy and set up a nice real estate empire by giving generously”.
At the very least, these people should be made to pay all taxes on all monies gained over the many years, with full penalties, to the Indian government. That tax money could build many toilets, houses, wells, and provide jobs for the very people who were supposed to benefit in the first place.
Then, “HHSSRS” as he calls himself now, should go to the Himalayas, and do sadana, taking advice from real gurus and saints living there, and wash his sins away, living the celibate, lonely life of a monk (which he claims to be).
His followers who have become his ‘leaders’? They should all go do some constructive work. If they really believe they want to help people, not just travel around in style and comfort, they should apply themselves to social work. Otherwise, go earn a living like all the people they have robbed in the name of charity, to enrich their ‘Guru’.
What the hell is this?
3. If someone has cancer, don’t eat with them.
4. If someone has AIDS, take a shower and change your clothes.
What happened to Accept People the Way they are and all the cancer recovery stories that are publicized by AOL. And compassion?
Bunch of Hypocrites and inhuman people running the AoL organisation.
the kriya links have become disfunctional can anyone upload it again.
The kriya links work no more! It was clear, AOL missioners did everything to stop the free access! 🙂 so greedy little minds have in AOL…But I downloaded the kriya before from the links and I do my kriya regularly. I am no more dependent from AOL organisation 🙂 and I have free kriya! 🙂
I shall be obliged if you send me a copy of Please send me a copy of Sudarshana Kriya.
Please, wenn you had minimum AOL part 1 course, send me your nickname in skype here and I send you free long Sudarshan kriya.
My skype id is venkataRK_m.
Hi exaolfan,
I have done my Basic course in the ashram. It was a 3day course. After that i am attending the Weekly long kriya session at the center. Every time i visit the center the teacher requests me to send students for the course. If u can provide me the long kriya audio tape; i will practice it at at home.
my skypeid is “venkatark_m”.
Regards,
Venkata
can u pls help me too by sending me the kriya tape on abv id
Hi, I also a copy of it as well. Could you share?
Hi EXAOLFAN, it is a great service sending long kriya files via skype. I read your post dated Aug 01 , 2010. I did my basic course and refresher course thrice. But still finding it difficult. My skype id is muralisysarc.
If you so greatly dislike AOL and want to be free of it, then why the fuck do you do your kriya regularly, leave complete connection from AOL..get the hell out of there…this blog is nothing but a bunch of fucking hypocrites all ranting together cuz they have NO LIFE.
and FYI jerks, kriya is confidential and cannot be taught by anyone its because if kriya should be done the correct way, if done the wrong way, it may work oppositely, just like the ramdev yoga exercises.
Without donation, an organization such as this doesnt function.
If you all hate AOL, why do you bother getting secrect kriya notes and stuff. What will you benefit from it??? Its not yours to be taken, you don’t deserve it.
I have met Sri Sri, and he is not power hungry or money hungry or anything else as you fucking assholes say…..he is a loving and spiritual being, and he is a inspiration to many.
International organizations such as UN doesn’t recognize any phony..if you can get that through your thick skull.
I have met many claimed “spiritual leaders” ..won’t specify the name, and i know what a phony is like and Sri Sri is NOT one of them. NO one turns to a the life of a saint without actually being so. If you are a situational yogi, forced to leave home, then you are a phony..but someone who goes away willingly and establishes something so big from his own sweat and blood is no fake.
Do you have the awareness that Guruji has not a single family member in his AOL trust? If he was after money he would have kept his whole family there.
And why would a phony be interested in the welfare of people? When he visited my country, he encouraged us and helped us to uplift the standard of life here. If he didn’t care about world welfare then he would sit in his ashram and give a little bit of bullcrap to the audiences and enjoy most of his time enjoying his money…but that is not the case. WHY? because he genuinely cares..you will know that when he helps you. A person after money, fame doesn’t care about anyone once they have all they want.
So stop defaming His Holiness and AOL and GO GET A LIFE.
Another troll!
“If you so greatly dislike AOL and want to be free of it, then why the fuck do you do your kriya regularly, leave complete connection from AOL..”
No one did any favor by teaching kriya. They charged for it. What rights do you have now to ask anyone stop it or continue it? People have paid for kriya and even if it is crap it is up to them to decide what they want to do with it. So get lost.
Can I get the audio files please. I would be very grateful
How I can to send you sudarshan kriya? I can´t to upload in internet server, becose will be illegal.
can i give you my email id?
or can you make a torrent and send it to my email id?
anyways thanks a lot for replying so quickly. very much appreciated
my email id is boldwings@yahoo.com
Please…… if you can do it…….. you would be doing everybody a good favour.
I want to be free too……like you
From now my name will be exaolfan’s fan in this blog
@aolfan
My skype id is ron.dit. send me a friend request i will add you . then you can transmit any file to me. I I do want that, so that attending this every sundays brainwashing programme will end. In any case I am not attending tomorrows follow up programme.
Bye
By email can not be send. There maximum is 10 mb, kriya is 141 mb. But by skype can 🙂
Very fine. So when do we get started. We can continue here or start mailing if you are not comfortable with disclosing your skype details. Because as they say we are being watched!!! ;))
Oh!!!! I forgot to enter my name…… I am exaolfan’s fan!!!!!!
Is there a limit on file file transfer through Skype?
No limit. SK whithout probleme can send per skype for 20 minute 🙂 But I will be anonyme . I have fear from AOL coordinators. I was isolated from AOL, becose I too much thinked und too much questions had… 🙂 No one other saved the kriya?
I have done AOL basic course, DSN, eternity process, srisri yoga and very recently Advanced course (part2) and there after Sahaj Samahi Dhyann and I must say I have been benefitted immensely by some of the practices of these courses. Mainly, SK, guided meditations of DSN and Padma Sadhna. however my experience with Eternity Process is Neutral, I didnt get much may be I was not doing enough Sadhana. With Part 2 I have mixed experience I think Mudra Pranayam and hollow and empty was good , silence was also good rest of that was poor especially the questions I asked my teacher Tanuja they became Kutark, simply because they became difficult. All the same the experience was poor due to lack of availability of teacher , format and answer to questions. Sahaj Samdhi was waste, I felt cheated, they charged me money for one word that too which doesn’t work, after that I have gone back to guided meditations of SSRS and others. Apart from number of things I like about teachers and organisationI (I have never met SSRS) , I basically dislike three things about it , first utmost secrecy like that for kriya tape and hollow and empty meditations tape, second hankering after money like despite several remiders for donation after DSN I did not part with my hard earned money and third unsubsataniated claims and surrender, where you have to believe what is being told. Regarding abuse I have not faced any but I was not any way involved deeply with the organisation the way part-time and full time teachers are involved. I must thank all my teachers for giving many things like SK (especially my basic course teacher, I dont think I can relate with the rest) etc. Also this blog is another teacher which has shown me the way not to get too deep in it because on top of this organisation there is too much of secrecy.
Anyway, my skype id is ron.dit and you know why I am giving this.
bye
hi can you send me the link for kriya.
my skype is : iamsahil2
my email: pcseanwatt@gmail.com
thanks
So how can I connect to you through Skype. Can you email me your Skype Name or other details. Mine is boldwings@yahoo.com or my Skype Name is Su Iy (Not the real name ofcourse!!!)
Wow. You should get in touch with WikiLeaks, archive.org, and consult a lawyer. You are doing the right thing, but please make sure you are savvy about it. Remember they call it the Sudarshan Kriya(TM)!
A google search on internet showed Kriya tape downloads available at :
nowtorrents.com
However I don’t recommend any one to taint themselves with the voice of a deceitful guru. It is better to do the breathing practices of http://eiriu-eolas.org/about/ that are free of dogma and no attachment to a false guru and far superior than SriSri’s!
Hi exaolfan,
I would be greatful to you if you could send me the kriya audio files, I have completed the basic course in which except the sudarshan kriya all other activities in the program were very pretentious and fake.
My email I.d. is pingme31@gmail.com. Please send me audio files.
Hi WhistleBlower ,
The other site mentioned by you is very useful and as you said is better than the deceitful guru’s technique.
The torrent link provided by you for sudarshan kriya is not working, I request you to provide any other torrent which has the audio files.
Thanks
Sorry Pingme, don’t have any more info. And quite honestly don’t recommend anything from SriSri.
Pingme, thru mail can not send. Kriya is 144 mb.
WhistleBlower, why you do pressure against AOL techniques? Leave people alone to take what is useful from AOL. With your antipropaganda you are simple as AOL manipulations…AOL is not only black, and not only white.
Hi exaolfan
Please add me on skype.
My skype is iamsahil2
thanks
Please download WINRAR and then compress the 141 mb file into fragments of 5 mb and send through mail. About 28 mails you will have to send. Then all the parts will be recompiled by the same software. Send in similar way to me please.
my email : serpentalpower@yahoo.com
send through yahoo only gmail does not support .rar or .zip format uploads.
@mvrk
“Every time i visit the center the teacher requests me to send students for the course”
They force you to carry the posters and ask you to display at prominent locations or hand over to your friends. I have seen exits being blocked when people are about to leave.
They seem to be telling the attendies “We have done this for you (Free Kriya) and you should do this for us”.
Of course it is. Everything is a two way process. Haven’t you learned anything.
You cannot expect to keep taking without giving anything in return?
Karma, in short.
can you reupload to a rapidshare account or hotfile? U can then e-mail people who are interested the download link?
Can you send me a download link to brahmavisnushiva@gmail.com?
thank you.
I didn’t upload it in the first place, I just found it on the net -so sorry, can’t help. Maybe someone else out there can do it?
ok. but could you anyway create a fake account or upload to any file hosting server that does not need an account and password?
Sudarshan Kriya Rocks!! Have to do it to know it!!
Spread love not hate!!!
Smile buddy, y so blue! 🙂
Peace! 🙂
Will anyone upload again for those of us who don’t have the mp3 yet? 😦
Please ?
Yes, you are right my friend.
I accidentally stumbled upon this.
😉
Hi Kriya Surfer,can you mail me at pcseanwatt@gmail.com if you happened to stumble upon a working link again. thanks 😉 🙂
Please share the mp3. Let us put an end to AOL lies and manipulation.
Can anyone of you which has the mp3 upload it to some file server?
Please, share, I beg you…….
butons and bonton – please see my previous reply. Read it carefully, and pay especially close attention to any words which may stand out.
What’s a bunch of lies is you and this friggin blog.
I curse the time I stumbled upon this.
And for those who believe AOL is money hungry, I say you get a mental check.
A greedy organization doesn’t take fee for the first time and gives you the facility to re-take for do weekly followups FREE.
I know money hungry organizations. And lastly YOU SUCK AND SO DOES THIS FORUM…….NEVER LOOKING AT THIS SITE AGAIN……so dont bother replying I ain’t coming back homie..
Can anyone please upload or create a torrent for the kriya.. i really need it.. it would be very helpful if people who have it can share with others..
dont be selfish guys.. it is seva if u distribute it to others
Downloading Kriya tapes…..then telling is as “SEVA”…wow what a pig!! what an ass!!!
What if u ppl pasted posters, enrolled 2-3 ppl for the course ?? You want every thing at uer door step for free……..beggars are better than you.
Yes, you tell them.
These bloggers really are pigs…a disgrace to humankind and a disgrage under the teaching of Sri Sri.
If they had any brains they would know what trouble they are getting them selves into.
Good thing for them that Guruji is so kind and forgiving…but I do hope that these people are made to suffer for their sins. Defaming our precious Guruji.
What insolent thick-headed freaks.
Guruji give them sense or take them away.
iceman – see my first post above.
I have already clicked on both the links.. none of them seem to be working..
i am a big believer in kriya and a good audio would help me
I have the kriya in both of my computers and also in my mobile telepfone 🙂 mp3 But I can´t upload in rapidshare or other sites.
Hi Exaolfan! How best can you share the kriya. I am at Hyderabad
can u plz send me a audio file long kriya? i dont want to be in th publicity campaign of AOL. plz exaolfan send it to me
my id is : mysteryunfolded008@yahoo.com
Do the kriya they way you are supposed to according to the person who taught you the kriya! It’s like having a coach, follow his directions to achieve the goal you are seeking.
Ice man
this is one more new link to download the full long kriya. Download before it goes off.
rapidshare.com
No I meant click on MY first post, i.e. Kriya Surfer’s. You know what, just click anywhere on this post, like here, or here, or here, or here, or if you feel like it, here. Or you can even click on another word if you want to, it’s up to you.
😉
No, MY first post above, not the first post of the main thread. The link is clearly in that post.
I suppose you guys made a point already by putting these “Secrect AOL knowledge” and proved it is not so secret per say, you guys proved that sky don’t fall if you tell outside or the tapes are not going to be empty (no sound without guru’s grace), etc, etc. No body really interested in these knowledge to learn from it instead to show that what a bullsh*t aol is.
this ridiculous kriya notes is not a copy right material . art of living should produce the legal document to prove that it is indeed copyright. till such time wordpress should not work under pressure from influential persons
anyway kriya notes has nothing substantial it is just bullshit
If its bullshit……….then why the hell you want to EAT it ???
Exactly, my point too.
I dont really see the purpose of any of this.
They claim to hate AOL and everything it stands for and it teaches and yet they so DESPERATELY want to hand the kriya tapes and do the kriya.
They are just a bunch of low life, jealous people.
HYPOCRITES!!!!
Hey,
There has got to be a lawyer among the thousands of people reading this blog. If you are a lawyer (but not AOL-lackey) reading this blog, please give us your legal opinion.
You don’t seem to know the real workings of the organization.
This this all guess work. You also want to defame the thing you all want and practice everyday.
You all claim that this secret keeping of AOL is what earns them money.
So, putting two things together, It looks as if you want the kriya tapes so that you can use it for your own earning purposes.
The Art of Living foundation is eligible to file a law suit on you.
The founder of a organization so big will never be stupid enough not to sign some non-disclosure or copyright document, if it really is the basis of his earning, as you claim it to be.
Hope that helps.
PS
Even if it is a hand-written copied note.
i think the name “sudarshan kriya” has a trademark and the “breathing technique” is just another kriya technique in the long line of such techniques to be interpreted from the yoga shastras. (aka patanjali time)
now coming to the notes posted – if i make notes in a seminar and post them for the benefit of people there is no crime. the notes are mine and my interpretation of the semiar knowledge.
If however there is some material from the seminar that i post online for the “common good” like in this case the “kriya audio” / manuals etc of the AOL – then definately there is an offence committed.
is wordpress within their rights to demand the removal of any material? – yes. thats why they have a system for review wherein one can plead ones case and get the “objected” material back on the site.
so for those who put up the blog – frankly i dont see the point – if you are unhappy with the AOL organisation, somebody is unhappy with the traffic right now – go get a life. if however you have tangible proof of wrondoing/ misleading etc – the place is the courts – file a proper complaint.
for those in the AOL – do your breathing and ignore this. any action you choose to take has to be concise and definitive otherwise just ignore them. personally i dont see any issue as the blog is blocked. the bigger issue is of “software piracy” of the kriya tape. chase every link and shut them down – for that this blog is actually helping in your cause.
Sudarshan Kriya instruction notes is available on scribd.com.
I talked with an artist friend of mine who has been using somebody else”s material for a recent show. He says that if the copyright material is distributed in the original print in manuscript, it is illegal. However, if you write down the exact same thing IN YOUR OWN HANDWRITING and then distribute it is not illegal. You will have to retain the proof that what was used were your own notes.Any material done before 1920 and copied in not illegal, but that does not apply in this case. Please double check on this
Skywalker & Whistleblower:
The Tradition Knowledge Digital Library, based in Delhi, is busy logging and documenting all traditional yogic techniques so that they cannot be trademarked. The TKDL considers ancient Vedic/Yogic knowledge to be for humankind, not the property of any one Swami or Organization coming out of India. The most recent application of their work has been to stop Bikram from suing others from using “his” sequence of yoga postures. In order for TKDL to log, it might be helpful if you send them the dialogue between yourself and the WordPress people, which ordered you to take down the SK Notes, and the SK tape. These are ancient breathing techniques and are owned by no one, not even SSRS and AOL, although they, like Bikram, have wrongly copyrighted them.
The e-mail to the Senior Advisor and Director of TKDL is
vkg@csir.res.in
This is their website:
http://www.tkdl.res.in
Of course it takes time, but eventually, if logged as ancient, the SK trademarks will have to be taken down, not your site.
That is excellent. Skywalker/Whistleblower/Ex-aol teachers – you guys can pool together with enough information to challenge their rights on ancient/stolen wisdom.
None of the above links are active! Can some one pplzz share the link for long kriya?
http://www.filemail.com can take large files and the file is active for (i think) 3 days. Someone will do a very big seva by uploading the Sudarshan kriya file there and sharing the link here. Definitely a lot of people will be unclutched from AOL machines!
regards
Sailor – no need to reupload – Seems there is already a file available – a little googling and I found it on Megaupload.com
Hi Kriyaexposed!
Thanks for the link, however the website shows “The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable.” 😦
Regards
dude please mail the Kriya Notes & The sohum tape to this mail id Please
godmademefunky90@gmail.com the links are not working…
Pls dude pls…..point is i wanna teach my frens & my ppl also
i feel me payin the money for the course itself is too much don wanna make my ppl waste on it also pls
No can do, sorry.
Dear Kriyasurfer!
Many thanks. Link works this time!
Hy everybody. Does anyone know where can find the audio of short Sudarshan Kryia? I wonder why I do it often but I have some difficulty in faster breathing cycle .
Thanks in advance
AOL is sending copyright complaints to WordPress, each time an active link is posted on the blog, for Kriya download. So please don’t post active links.
Hi exaolfan,
I have a skype account now, could you please send me the long sudarshan kriya file, my skype I.D. is pingme31
My email I.d. is pingme31@gmail.com.
Thanks,
ping
Please send me The long Sudharsan kriya notes for my personal use.
For the past 3 years i am doing this kriya but only three full cycles.
At the time of this course The Kriya teacher refused to give the copy of the Long Kriya CD.
But after that there is no refreshment course regarding this in our place.
If you send me I would be happy.
Thank you
Sorry, You are knocking on the wrong door. This is not a place to get pirated sudarshan kriya notes. The notes posted were to expose AOL shenanigans – not to pirate their material for personal use.
Dear KandaSwamy………..Reapeat the Course. Its free ‘N’ number of times, then practice it for 41 days……you will get it right. I have been doing since 2003.(My age was 20 then!!)
Can u post question papers of premier education institutes too? It will be more helpful to everyone. As anyway you are doing so much ‘social work’…:)
Its very strange.If Sudarshan Kriya has so beneficial effects,then why Shri Ravi Shankar Ji is not teaching it on National TV,Doordarshan, Sanskar or any such channels where students from small towns can learn and practice.Millions are benefiting from the ‘Pranayam’ taught on TV by Baba Ramdev Ji.Please AOL guys money is everything.Do some free service and attain moksha.
@Pheoniz
You said the answer – it is not going generate cash for AOL. Why would they do it – they are not in this one for making the world better place (assuming SK is good). AOL revolves around RaviRavi’s lust for $$$, fame and power.
You can go jump in a lake.
How do you think the ashram will work or the teachers get paid, if NOTHING is charged?
They charge minimum money and you still say stupid things about Sri Sri.
I hope you pay for this.
He should practice it daily first of all before preaching.
In fact, this should go under the prosecutor section as charge number 1.
SSRS doesnt practice sudarshan kriya daily.
Now, thats some charge.. 😀
He does it regularly my dear from Day 1. He sleeps only for 2.5 hours.
@JGD
“He sleeps only for 2.5 hours.”
He sleeps? You mean like ordinary mortals? Oh please don’t start spreading such rumours about Him. Tomorrow you might even claim that He eats and He breathes just like lesser mortals.
wait and watch..the stupid AOLites would be paying $5 to use Jai Gurudev! They would patent the phrase and also air in the environment, so that no one can breathe freely without paying them some tax…anyway they are robbing others of vital oxygen…by breathing too much. Surprisingly, when one breathes in a wrong way during kriya, no teacher corrects them. Some people over breathe and almost all turn into moronic lunatics braindead lost souls.
TM, patenting etc are there…..such a huge loss to yoga tradition of India. No wonder the amazing yoga science was lost gradually in the country. It is because of crooked teachers that first kept knowledge secret and then the descendants who propagated knowledge for money or other favors. Now knowledge is provided as fast food, suited for the needs of today’s world….half-knowledge is worse than no knowledge.
This is a very good point Gretchen, and one I’ve often wondered about but never raised. Whenever we did the Long Kriya, everyone did it differently, and some people were really forcing the air out of their lungs. Never have I ever seen a teacher correct anyone on the technique during any of the follow ups.
Can anyone, especially a current or ex -teacher, please shed light on this?
Nothing of such sort will ever be done by AOL.They are here for good cause. Friend, just relax. 🙂
i am telling you that if u download it and play it even once you would have terrible suituations in you r life, i hv witnessed it,,,,,so whatever you may say but it happens i deleted and don’t do it, life is ok now…… Aol rocks
And I am telling you I downloaded it and played it MANY times, and as yet nothing terrible has happened in my life.
This is the kind of superstitious nonsense which AoL spread in order to try to control their devotees and induce fear in them, and frankly it only works on the poor souls who are already trapped in AoL. Once you are free, you will realize that this is just a cult mind-control technique.
but this has happened i have experienced it…..????
What happened? What have you experienced? And above all, can you scientficially draw a correlation between whatever terrible thing happened and playing the kriya tape without a teacher, which is what I assume you are referring to? Can you demonstrate that something terrible happens every time someone plays an “unauthorized” version of the kriya tape to that person themselves? Because in all the times I have played it by myself, nothing even remotely bad has happened to me. And could it be that these bad things happened completely independently of the kriya tape? Think about all these things long and hard and maybe you’ll start to open your eyes.
Bushan
I agree with you. Playing SK tape without any AOL interloper can be bad. But we have to qualify it. Esentially there is a highly conditioned hypnotic belief system created in AOL which reinforces that anything that violates AOL dictats will bring in misfortune. And everytime you have tried playing the downloaded SK tape you have proved it to yourself that it is right. Basically it is the strenght of your belief that is creating the bad things and misfortunes.
George Gurdjieff talks about the Yezidi tribes he encountered in his youth. The women of the tribe used to put a circle around their children and had hypnotized the children that they would never get out of the circle however hard they tried. The children obeyed and complied. it is pure hypnosis.
I think this limiting belief system enforced by AOL is the culprit. Enlightenment is to see all these limitations and come out of it. Enlightened ones are those who help people get out of limitated conditioned beliefs and not who create such things.
Maybe you should think some more and drop nonsense.
this is not gossip, nonsense it has happened things like escaping narrowly through an accident, family problems, feelingless of low has happened, everything is not to be proven, “scientific” we can’t prove god, but coincidences of this sought is extremely rare, i prefer not to do this, rest it depends on you all, prevention is better than cure..:)
By spreading superstitions, bad things might happen to you. Since god is the ultimate power and not the guru, so be careful about what rumors/gossip/superstitions you spread 🙂
see the above post, bad thing is using their copyrighted things, although that may or may not be their’s but legally its theirs
And I am telling you the Kriya only worked for me (didn’t make me feel sick) after I left AOL and did it on my own. My life improved dramatically in all areas after leaving AOL and leaving the cult-life SSRS encouraged. The Kriya is a breathing technique known to many in North India who have never heard of SSRS, btw, and it works for them too. Don’t fall for AOL’s superstitious foolishness. There is, indeed, such a thing as Grace of Guru, but you’ll never find it in AOL or with SSRS. You’ll just find a group of mesmerized, politicized people scrambling to get close to the leader (he loves that — to be adored). Wake up.
every one loves to be adored, even you would like to be adored……and i asked one of the teachers they say that they agree that aol has all materialistics things even politics……so what politics is a part of life, even lord krishna did it in mahabharat..:)
Of course you can find grace of the guru with SSRS if he is your Sat Guru. He’s just not your Sat Guru. Take what is of value for you and move on. It’s quite simple. no need to trash everything just because you didn’t get you bottle!
i read all comments and i feel bhushan is correct with much of his things, irrespective of what aol does, after all we are benifitted, and using their knowledge without their permission is illegal and i m an atheist so, god n other things don’t affect me, but using their stuff is wrong and my inner self(on which i only believe) does not allow me to use it.
@nuetral – your IP address gives you away as being bhushan, so in effect you are telling us that you agree with yourself. Well, at least you’re being consistent here. 😉
Using copyrighted material is certainly illegal, however in the first instance I have yet to see any proof of copyright of the Sudarshan Kriya tape, and in the second instance I have yet to see any scientific proof that using copyrighted materials leads to bad experiences in one’s life.
@”nuetral”, “bhushanthinks”:
Your IQ is rapidly falling, as we speak. You can’t even spell “neutral” ! Get out of Aol before your transformation into a hyperventilated zombie is complete…
The links are not working. Will be grateful to u if u upload and forward a link.
check your email
My email is jabs101in@yahoo.co.in
Can you please send me the links
My Email: 203delta@gmail.com
hi, please send me kriya link at pcseanwatt@gmail.com
thank you
Hi,
I found this site after being frustrated with our local AOL teacher who has tried to rope us all into community service in the hopes of getting media attention for AOL. I have no problems volunteering, helping others or giving back to my community, but it really offended me that we were being prayed upon to do this as a PR stunt. Would like to practice on my own but the links are broken. If anybody could send me the files my email address is toolgirlpresents@yahoo.com
many thanks and blessings to those that want to attain enlightenment without being manipulated by power.
Hi,
I have a gmail account, could you please send me the long sudarshan kriya file, my gmail id is ish.bali@gmail.com
My email I.d. is ish.bali@gmail.com
Thanks,
Ish
what I don t get – long Sudarshan Kriy tape is the voice of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar – why would any of you want to listen to it?
plz send me the links. my id is mysteryunfolded008@yahoo.com
folks.. I have been looking to find out details on copyright claims by Art of living and their other related organizations but so far, could not find any trace of copyright registration in the copyright registration database… Here’s the link to entire database… It could be that their copyright claims are hoax to stop people from using this age old process which they some how want to protect from general public…
More over AOL also claims that their teachings and processes are based on ancient knowledge.. and to my knowledge.. work based on traditional knowledge are not protected under the law..
It is also important to know when did AOL protected their knowledge and process under copyright law. .date of registration etc..
I am damn sure we will be able to challenge their claims.
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First
please send me the links as i would so appreciate it..
xxmysteryguestxx@gmail.com
please send me the kriya link, thank you
pcseanwatt@gmail.com
Sudarshan kriya is available in other popular websites freely for download.
EDIT: LINK REMOVED
Please avoid posting direct links to the Sudarshan Kriya tape here, otherwise WordPress will receive legal threats from Art of Living which they will pass on to us. If you want to find a copy, try typing “long sudarshan kriya” into Google, or into one of the torrent sites mentioned in this post or the response to this post below.
Wonder why aol folks are not tarkgeting these sites. It will be fun to see a response to aol from pirate bay.
https://thepiratebay.org/legal
A group of aol teachers are concerned as Sudarshan Kriya has been protected and gaurded very closely in AOL. These people have posted their humorous (satirical) response to Bawa and Dinesh on their blog and other aol related blogs – pro and con. This is a comment which Bawa did not publish on his latest post on overcoming sex through cold showers. It is being circulated in several mailing lists.
Below is letter sent to Bawa and dinesh blog:
Dear Bau,
An important thing. We are a group of aol teachers (prefer to be anonymous as u will understand). the secret audio tape of sacred sudarshan kriya is available through the torrent websites
https://thepiratebay.org/also available in http://www.isohunt.com and many other torrent download sites.
Even you search for long sudarshan kriya in Google it come up in first twenty searches. Earlier people of the negative blogs posted it in rapidshare. your daddy gave them a fake legal notice and they chickened out. It worked at that time. But unfortunately for all of us teachers the torrent sites are cranky people. They do not care for copyright (to be truthful we don’t know abt sudarshan kriya is copyright or patent as no such records exist. ). Even though we lied abt patent we were able to keep sudarshan kriya out of reach of negative people. but not anymore because this torrent fellows don’t care. I sent a mail to https://thepiratebay.org/legal
and look at their responses for even big organizations. about aol and guruji they don’t care at all. it is really sad. especially for new aol teachers like us. you fellows are old teachers and have made lot of money. but for us if kriya tape is diluted where will people come and give money. please understand bau.
Now it has become very easy to download and people will start practicing it without Gurujis grace. They might even be harmed as guruji and all of us teachers have many times told.
Please ask your daddy Yezdi Batliwala to send some legal notice to these torrent sites. Also you can check with sumeru software guys especially the head of it , I forgot his name , he has very chanakya kind of mind and previously they had posted all junk torrents in name of sudarshan kriya. that worked for sometime but he can come up with some plans from his criminal err chanakya mind.
Nowadays I am telling all basic course people whom I teach that if they practice long kriya without coming to group kriya people will get cancer and aids. can you also ask guruji to issue statements like this so that people will stop downloading and practicing sk.
BTW I liked your responses about cold shower. when I checked with guruji once on what to do when I get aroused he suggested same thing. cold shower is so much better than sex. these fools do not understand. especially these folks who want sex all the time at all times in the year. why can’t all people be like guruji and not have sex at all. I think this message should be told to all we have no time to lose. great job bau. also hope dinesh is taking his cold showers and not losing his precious seed and prana.
Love
I belong to you
jai guru dev
An AOL teacher representing some of my students who are also aol teachers.
Best course for AOL should be to target Google or atleast tell all course partcipants that Googling will cause negative prana and tamas.
good one
This is link to bawa and dinesh site:
http://bawandinesh.name/questions-about-sex/
Wow! So many of you are so lost chasing conceptual ideals of what you think a guru or a spiritual organization should be. A few of you make valid points regarding problems in the organization of the AOL. But this oversimplified “back or white” thinking is so immature. You’re all looking for a cosmic mommy or daddy that will fit your ego ideal. GROWUP! Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is an extraordinary Sat Guru. You are blind to this. Why, I don’t know. By the way, I’ve been doing SK for 25 years and no, I’m not a teacher, but know so many in the AOL that are wonderful. A few weird ones here and there, but so what. Try SK and SSM if you like it, fine, if you don’t why waste your life writing these incredibly immature screeds against something you have allegedly left behind you?
@Fishmanjoo
Looks like you have a premeditated analysis of what is there in this site without even reading it. Very similar to typical Ravi Ravi’s anwers.
Not at all. I have read everything in this site. I base my judgement of SSRS and AOL on my own experience. I don’t deny the experience of others, but this uncritical trashing helps nobody.
why is it so hard for AOL supporters to understand the need to have an objective website on AOL on the internet? Most of the people posting here are not interested in bashing anyone – they only want to show the whole picture and let people decide for themselves. Blogs like this can be very constructive and very important for helping make people aware of potential dangers of AOL. I said potential, not certain dangers. One must decide for themselves. I found this blog a blessing, as there are only a handful of objective websites on AOL.
You’re all looking for a cosmic mommy or daddy that will fit your ego ideal.
But… but … I was only looking for spirituality (i didn’t know what it was) when going into aol; only my AoL teachers told me Guruji was the solution to all my problems, leave it all to Him, etc. In other words, they made him my “cosmic daddy”. And now you come and tell me it wrong to look for that? Why were you not a teacher and teaching all this to seekers like me?
You made him your cosmic daddy. You need to take responsibility for your own decisions. I’ve learned that in spiritual movements, you only listen to the words of the Guru. His disciples are one step removed.
@Fishmanjoo
“You’re all looking for a cosmic mommy or daddy that will fit your ego ideal.”
You seem to be utterly confused. People here are calling the bluff of cosmic mommies and daddies. Not the other way round.
“By the way, I’ve been doing SK for 25 years.”
Ah! You should have told it earlier. It explains the root cause of your confused mind.
Typical ad hominem attack. I am not confused and neither are you. To be taken seriously please discuss the issue instead of the silly dismissal of me as some deluded person!
I just hope that the people that come to this site for some sort of “inside” look at AOL and SSRS recognize that this site is more the reflection of people’s unresolved issues with SSRS/AOL rather than some sort of serious examination of critical issues. Beware the zealot for either good or bad. And really beware of the zealot who once advocated good as forcefully as they now advocate bad. You can learn nothing from them. They are only concerned with themselves and wanting you to think just like them.
Xiphobia,
Yes, you are right. This is a website where people express and work on their “unresolved issues with SSRS/AOL”. I have certainly used this sight for that very purpose. In what way does that preclude a “a serious examination of critical issues?” I think this website has done lots to do both of these things. It has provided a place for us to think out loud about our experience in AOL and it has also been a place of ‘ serious examination of critical issues’. I would invite anyone who comes to this website to read the posts thoughtfully and critically. I think the designers of this blog would also agree.
@Xiphobia
Just go through the whole blog and KLIM’s blog and even after that you have the same opinion what you have now. Then you have no other choice but to go the HHHH….H SRS. Because, he/GOD/ RS can only enlighten you. (By the way, many of us who were on their way to become AOL teacher changed our course midway after learning about inside stories of AOL which from outside we could only feel uncomfortable but did not really know what was actually that disturbing / uncomfortable feeling about various acts of AOl teachers and others who were thoroughly involved persons with AOL, for example going after money, fetish for organising mega courses, unconditional surrender to guru and AOL’s questionable practices, and many that have been outlined in Doctor’s post and prosecutor’s page.)
Re: Sudarshan Kriya Registration and Copyright
Where’s the Beef?
I am currently conducting doctoral program research and have searched the internet far and wide, reviewed the literature on pranayama, etc., and found absolutely no evidence of where in fact the Sudarshan Kriya Yoga technique or process is actually registered as a trademark or copyrighted.
If there are any legal experts frequenting this forum, can you please advise as to how one would actually VERIFY the alleged existence of copyright or trademark registration regarding Sudarshan Kriya Yoga?
At the very least, I have encountered dozens of references to the practice of “So Hum” mantra meditation as ancient practices which easily pre-date even the birth of the founder of AOLf, as a form of kundalini, chakra yoga, pranayama, etc.
I am not even remotely interested in “copying” the SKY as it is, but do contend that the use of the “So Hum” mantra in a rhythmic fashion is completely beyond the right of any individual or corporation to “control” it, as it can be easily demonstrated to have existed in the public domain long before someone came along and claimed to “register” it.
So, if there is anyone who can provide some details on where this SKY is actually copyrighted or registered, could they please furnish that information?
Thumbs up Dr. Yes……
They can’t; they aren’t organized enough.
if anyone need SK notes, just write an email to srisrileaks@gmail.com and I will send it to you.
just thought people should have this for free
Where I can find the new Sudarshan Kriya tape???
(at this tape Ravi Shankar sings three times OM sound)
@godmademefunky
search google for long sudarshan kriya and you will get torrent of size 140 mb. That is SK and you can download it.
BTW, I am an aol teacher, not teaching since last two years, slowly slipped away from the personality cult.
@radha omg… !!! thanks…
i found it… & dwing it ….
seriously these guys are too much…
why do they charge an epic fees….??
We gain many knowledge in our life. Some accidentally, some from nature and some from fellow beings and some from our teachers or gurus. As all of us are aware that, all the knowledge cannot be attained from any single source.
Take the situation of a complex mathematical problem on your high school. Somebody needs to be there to teach you the steps to solve the problem at least for the first time. Have you learned to solve the problem in your early ages yourself? There may be brilliant students. Even then how they got the briallance? Did they studied everything without the help of anone? No! 99% of the students learn to solve that from their teachers. amazingly only 50% of them really learn how to solve that problem.
There are something that needs to be learned from teachers or gurus. Almost all exercises needs an instructor. If you go to a gymnasium, there should be an instructor to instruct what to do and when to do. What is the use of that instructor? Have you ever thought about that? If not think about that. When you develop your body, the development should be even. Else, you will have strong muscles on legs and hand, but there will be a big stomach like umbrella. Here comes the need of an instructor.
Sudarshana Kriya is one like that. What you hear in the audio is a part of it. It is done along with other exercises also and there is a way to do it. Doing in the improper way can surely lead to problems. Its the law of nature itself.
Doing Sudarshan Kriya continuously will lead to a drastic change to your mind and body.
We should learn to extract the good ones and leave the bad ones.
i had a lovely experience with the sudarshad kriya tape – yes the actual tape. As i let go my affiliations, i lit a bonfire and in it went every item of AOL’s that i owned – and then i did the dance that Sandra Bullock did in the movie “The Proposal” around the bonfire and chanted all types of gibberish and you know what the tape had no magical properties, it melted into the fire….nothing…try it..if you dare 🙂
Lol. That is quite literally the best post I’ve read so far…….
I have seen many negative comments and posts from persons who completed the AOL courses. Is there anyone who done something advanced like eternity process? I would like to know in detail about eternity process. It is said to show the past life of a person. How is it achieved? What is the secret behind eternity process?
I’ve read a lot of people on here asking for the SK recording.
I just want to warn you all know that this practice can be dangerous long term. Please read this blog thoroughly for your own good. Be careful and make sure you know what you’re doing with your body. It might help you, or it could hurt you. Just use extreme caution.
As someone else said on this blog, it’s “good medicine, but not food.”
“I just want to warn you all know that this practice can be dangerous long term”
Thank you for your excellent research. Please report to Stockholm immediately and collect your noble prize in medicine.
@Harshal,
Putting aside the fact that it is actually Norway that awards the Nobel Prize, I want to ask you for your professional opinion on something.
Let’s imagine a scenario whereby a new drug, let’s call it Panace-A, had in the last 20 or so years become available on the market. The pharmaceutical company which produces Panace-A, let’s call them Miracle Cure Inc., claims it can cure a great many previously incurable diseases such as cancer, AIDS, Parkinson’s disease, and that it can also help people overcome smoking and other drug addictions as well as generally combat stress.
Now, Miracle Cure Inc. hasn’t actually carried out a great deal of scientific research on Panace-A, however they have managed to find a small cross-section of the public worldwide and convince them to try Panace-A. The individuals have reported many different things, some claiming it has cured them of various ailments, some that they received no effects at all, and some have reported highly unpleasant effects as a result of taking the drug.
Miracle Cure Inc. have somehow procured a licence which allows them to produce and sell Panace-A, however in all their marketing and any accompanying literature they only tell people about the positive effects of Panace-A.
Further, those who report any negative effects are themselves accused by Miracle Cure Inc. of being negative, of lying and when they try to warn others about the dangers they have experienced whilst taking Panace-A, a drug which had been inadequately researched in the first place, they are also accused of trying to defame Miracle Cure Inc.
This is no different from Sudarshan Kriya. There is insufficient scientific evidence whatsoever to show either its benefits or the dangerous side effects it produces in practitioners. For the most part Art of Living uses testimonials to “prove” its benefits. We are using testimonials to show that it has dangerous side effects.
Hi Harshal.
Welcome back. I’m glad to see your “trip” to India made you wonderfully peaceful and compassionate. You truly possess the qualities of a divine being.
Keep up your quality posts. You are doing the world a great service by keeping others away from AOL by your example. As SSRS has said “Fools show us a beautiful lesson of what not to do.”
@ doctor: you are so convinced that you know the truth, that you are right. Apart from the Peace Prize, all the Nobel Prizes are presented in Stockholm and hence I asked him to report there to ‘collect’ it. Only if you had known that you would have got the joke.
Unfortunately I cannot give my professional opinion as I did not specialize in ‘stupidity’.
However, I can give you a layman’s opinion. Take example of a comman drug , say ‘Aspirin’. Some studies in a few populations have shown tat Low-dose aspirin protects against Myocardial infarction. The evidence is not conclusive though, it can NEVER be conclusive,human biology is so complex that there are always if’s and buts and limitations and drawbacks in any clinical trial. So people take aspirin based on whatever evidence is avaiable.
However, if , tomorrow , an anonmyous blog, created by people who CLEARLY hate/dislike Asprin Inc…start claiming that low dose asprin causes zombiness, do you think people should believe them and discontinue aspirin?
by the way, Stockholm syndrome := ‘Feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor’
does this apply?
@Harshal – I stand corrected on Stockholm, so my apologies on that.
Now, as far as the rest is concerned, you are evading the point: Art of Living NEVER mentions any side effects of practicing Sudarshan Kriya. The following was taken straight from an Art of Living website:
With Aspirin, as with all drugs, the contraindications are printed in the accompanying leaflet. Those who take aspirin are made aware of all the risks upfront before they do so, and if they find they can’t take it, they don’t. With Sudarshan Kriya, Art of Living lies through their teeth by saying things like the above, just to sell the courses in which they teach they technique.
If this isn’t irresponsible and unethical, then what is it?
oh that is simple – Side effects are your bad karma coming out- the technique is perfect because RS said so.
So easy – no need to investigate, or actually conduct systematic studies – saves you a lot of effort, plus it’s cooler to have strong convictions than be a bumbling scientist who is keen to find the truth and have a more detailed understanding of how these techniques actually work.
@Harshal:
“Some studies in a few populations have shown tat Low-dose aspirin protects against Myocardial infarction. The evidence is not conclusive though, it can NEVER be conclusive,human biology is so complex that there are always if’s and buts and limitations and drawbacks in any clinical trial. So people take aspirin based on whatever evidence is avaiable.”
It does not work that way sir.
No evidence is ever conclusive does not mean that anything goes.
The drug has to pass through double blind test on a sample population and it has to be established that the difference between the test group and control group is statistically significant. No amount of personal testimonies can override the statistical significance of tests.
Significance test statisticians love to say that truth has four facets. In passing a drug the four facets of truth would be: 1) People who took the drug and got cured. 2) People who took the dug and did not get cured. 3) People who did not take the drug but still got cured. 4) People who did not take the drug and did not get cured. Any study that does not take into account all the four facets of truth is not even wrong. It is ridiculous.
So far all AOL research fouses on 1) only. So please do not mislead anyone – least of all yourself – that complexity of human biology means that anything goes.
@ prakash: please dont give me this statistical BS. You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about. See this study, this study is by no means ideal but gives some useful indications(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10708840).
@ doctor :
1) sudarshan kriya is not a drug
2) AOL never claims that it can be used as a substitute for treatment
3) Drugs like aspirin which come with disclaimers on side effect come out of clinical evidence /publications in peer-reviewed journals. The disclaimers say ‘it may cause’ .noone is sure.
4)SK has no proven side effects.
What do you want AOL to do? Should they have a disclaimer saying
“Anonymous People on an anonymous blog are saying that SK causes zombiness in some anonymous people ..so do it at your own risk”
I know of 3 clear instance (Can even provide names and addresses, but of course not in an open forum) where people who were normal developed high BP after doing SK for a few months. And I know that at least one case above has been brought to the attention of VVKI and SSRS.
@dayalu: see this is the problem.
“I know of 3 clear instance where people who were normal developed high BP after doing SK for a few months”
your observation is valid but this doesnt mean anything! Blood pressure is not a simple trait which can be all of a sudden increased by one factor. you are very quick to establish a cause and effect relationship.
did they all eat pizza sometime after doing SK? Using your logic, one can say people who eat pizza after doing SK will develop hypertension.
Like you have seen, I have seen so many people needing less BP medications after doing SK. But I cannot claim that SK did it for them, unless and until they were a part of study where all the other factors affecting BP were controlled for.
Again, I have never seen AOL claiming that SK is a cure for everythign or that people should stop medications. They usually say that SK reduces stress which helps in many ways.
See this study(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18222135).
So me suggests that it is better not to reach to childish conclusions like these ( and ya did one of you develop dark circles after SK?…. lol)and spread rumors on internet.
@Harshal:
“please dont give me this statistical BS. You absolutely have no idea what you are talking about.”
Unfortunately that reaction is not uncommon among mathematically challenged. However it does not affect the reality least bit.
4. SK has no proven side effects.
I’d like to see the proof too!. There is a reason people having high B.P are asked not to do the fast cycle – as it actually raises your heart rate, and can be dangerous for some. As far as long term effects are concerned, there have not been any good study on it – so it’s more like the long term effects are unknown.
What do you want AOL to do?
Good question – Marketing is not truth – AOL markets it’s techniques, so I can understand that telling the truth is not in its interest.
But, for starters they can tell people to listen to their body, instead of mechanically doing 20-40-40. They ought to mention that it is an experimental technique, and any risk they take is their own.
Also stop making claims that it helps cure cancer, and stop pushing anecdotal evidence as proof that the technique cures chronic illness and ailments.
@Peaceful Warrior: i think trying to study this long term effect thing is idiotic. How will you do a study on it?
Will you tell NIH that I want to study the long term effect of an conscious increase in the respiratory rate in some subjects? They will tell you that everyone does that all the time.
When you go for a jog, or when you play tennis , you are increasing you respiratory rate/hyperventilating consciously.Hence people who have uncontrolled blood pressure, are advised not to indulge in heavy exertion activities.
However, you can do a study looking into the effect of focusing on breath on stress levels. There is lots of literature out their which shows a beneficial effect.
The main and only physiological difference in doing doing SK and playing say tennis is that while doing SK you have an ‘awareness’ of your breathing pattern. As far as I know and you will hopefully agree that ‘awareness’ is not necessarily a bad thing.
It would be awareness if you bring your awareness to your breathing when exerting yourself. SK is an artificial breathing pattern, not a natural breathing pattern which comes when you exert yourself.
However, you can do a study looking into the effect of focusing on breath on stress levels.
Do you mean sk or pranayams in general when you say “breath” ? if referring to sk, the published literature is very preliminary, and very short term (harvard study being a notable exception). Sk does work in the short term – I will agree with you on that – it did work for me initially – but on a longer term, it did not and I was better without it.
Btw. Marijuana and LSD also reduce stress, but that does not mean they don’t have long term debilitating effects.
As far as SK is concerned, no one really knows about what it does to you in the long term, and I don’t want to be someone’s guinea pig. My body stopped responding to it a long time back, in fact, it started to reject it. If it works for someone, I say good for them – for me, the simple rule of listening to your body works better than blindly following a formula given by someone who does not understand my physiology.
@PW : how do you define an ”artificial breathing pattern?” and what is a natural breathing pattern. You say ‘it is’ which comes when you exert yourself’
All pranayams are artificial breathing patterns? Kapala bhati is a artificial breathing pattern? no one has studied long term effects of it. So it should be debunked?
So a natural breathing pattern is when you are sitting idle doing nothing? and when you are playing ,say tennis, the breathing pattern is artificial? Do you then want to study long term side-effects of playing tennis?
SK stopped working for you. What changed? SK did not change. It was constant, if you were doing it the way it was taught….You are the one who changed , ‘your’ body stopped responding, who knows why? So everyone else will change like you? If not why are you suggesting that SK works only short term?
You are just a guinea pig of your own theories, your own mind.
@Harshal – Pattern which comes naturally out of activity is what I would call natural. Pattern which you force yourself into breathing in a certain rhythm is what I would call artificial.
I cannot saying SK is universally bad. I don’t have enough data to say that. Just like AOL does not have enough data to say that it is universally good.
What I can say with confidence is that SK does not work for me, and moreover, doing it over and over caused my health to decline.
Yes I would say I did change. Initially SK brought me to silence – but later on, with practice of meditation, silence became very natural. In fact later, I felt SK was a waste of time and effort – more an intrusion into the body, than actually providing it nourishment. Also, before I began sadhana, I did not have much awareness of my body, so I was unaware of any changes if any. But later on, I became more aware and in-tune with my body, so was in a position to see the effects of these things on me.
Further more, my health and overall well being has actually improved (on objective parameters – like BMI, endurance, and resting heart rate) since I stopped doing kriya.
You are just a guinea pig of your own theories, your own mind.
True to an extent, and I take full responsibility, and am accountable to myself. RS on the other hand, is not accountable for what he says, and neither does take any responsibility for your well being – in fact if things go wrong they blame it on your karma.
As far as kapalbhati and other traditional pranayams are concerned – they are not pushed as aggressively as natural elixir, the way AOL pushes SK. Further, the side-effects and contra indications of these techniques are known, as people have practiced them for hundreds of years. Furthur more kapalbhati is not sadhana. It is done to eliminate the doshas of kapha (hence more like medicine) and is not a regular spiritual practice like meditation.
you know i remember that the senior teachers would say that teachers are just instruments and its the guru who do the works – makes you wonder – is harshal ssrs?? and if so is this a reflection of ssrs?
I had a very bad experience of sudarshan kriya. Felt light headed and generally weak when i practiced for one month. Most of the aol people just make a big aevertisement of it and they do not even try to understand that these practices are very poorly designed. These people have flooded false information about the benefits of sudarshan kriya which is nothing but bhastrika pranayama. I just now found this site which is trying to debunk these advertisers.
i was a teacher. i have had a student pass out during sk. as adviced by aol, i made her smell the flowers that are offered to ravi’s picture. this is said to revive them. it did not happen. then as instructed, i placed a shawl that ravi had given me, as that is also divine, since ravi had been wearing it all day, before giving it to me. i was relatively new teacher at that time….i was told not to panic as grace will work it’s magic ( cant imagine that i was that dumb). anyway, we did all that and the student never came around. almost an hour later, she stirred and finally got up. i did have to call the doctor, who arrived after she had woken up. that incident really freaked me out. this was the severeist incident, with many smaller ones, which had people react abnormally. this was all karma clearing. so i do not beleive sk i for evetone.
What you just mentioned is a clear case of less blood flowing to the brain due to hyper ventilation. You can easily observe all the effects of hyperventilation in practioners of sudarshan kriya. If you do SK and experience numbness or tingling in the hands, feet and lips, lightheadedness, dizziness, headache, chest pain, slurred speech, nervous laughter be well assured that this is due to hyperventilation. It is not the grace of some guru which is creating all this, it is just a plain physical act of overbreathing. You can easily repeat this process in a clinical trail without following any hohums from a guru.
During the AOL course I couldn’t help laughing at the stupidity of the AOL teacher who so authoritatively claimed that SK increases oxygen in the system and flushes cells with oxygen. The scientific evidence is contrary to this as it can be easily proven that hyperventilation constricts several blood vesseles which create oxygen starvation.
Almost all people I know including me, who have practised sudarshan kriya have experienced these symptoms. If not for the other traditional measured pranayamas (sectional breathing)taught in AOL, most people would really end up sick if they practised just SK. SK in short is a dangerous technique which even many AOL teachers including Ravishankar do not practise. It is just a initiatory technique into the aol cult for people to get a kick of light headedness. like a drug induced high.You would be better of doing drugs than this as atleast the bad effects of drug abuse can be measured well and rectified. You can get really scarred like many AOLers if you continue hyperventilation for long term.
@Dr. Sudheendra
I can’t believe I’m actually defending AOL here…but correct me if I’m wrong – SK alternates fast and slow breathing – so the slow cycles may infact balance the harmful effects of rapid breathing. Having said that – i still don’t think it’s safe over long term. It’s best used as an initatory technique for novices.
All the three rhythms in SK – long, medium and short causes hyperventilation because it is done continously without pause. Same happens in rebirthing breathing from where ravi got this idea. The symptoms of hyperventilation can be easily observed in SK practise. I could see it in myself, my family and some of friends who practised this. I have seen one lady friend of mine a long term practitioner of SK being constantly spaced out, hysterical and with continous mood swings. She was normal before SK and now a big votary of the efficacy of this technique but she couldnt see her own condition which was so obvious for everyone else. She was like a drug addict looking for her next high in her SK practise.
In traditional pranayama sequences, hyperventilation as in bhastrika pranayama is used but only sparingly and only as an auxillary technique along with other breathing techniques in the sequence. It is not done for extended times as yogis who understand the technology behind it have deviced them keeping in mind the sensitivity of the human body. A typical example is the traditional pranayama taught by Swami Ramdev and from his alma mater the gurudev kangri yoga vidyalaya. Ramdev in his popular yoga program suggests bhastrika to be no more than 2-3 mins, followed by kapalbhati, alternate nostril breathing and other calming pranyama and chanting. You can study other schools of pranayama like Swami Rama, Sivananda, Krishnamacharya and all of them are quite similar in their approach on techniques like bhastrika. Some even teach pranayamas like the Murcha Pranayama (a pranayama which can cause fainting by reducing the oxygen ration in the blood). But these are used extremely sparingly and for very specific symptoms within a clear span of control.
Incidentally, Ravishankar’s new spin off sri sri yoga teaches an almost identical pranayama sequence like ramdev. This sri sri yoga was created when Ramdev become popular and sri sri wanted to create some thing similar and get a pie from the market share. but it became a damp squib and did not take off so well and Ramdev had no secrecy clause attached to him and went all out in his promotion. I know many aol teachers who only practise traditional yoga and they do not practise SK even though they teach them to others along with building up miracle stories of this dangerous technique. These are the lucky ones who are spared of the bad effects of hyped up whimsical techniques although they preach them to others.
@PW:
“I can’t believe I’m actually defending AOL here…but correct me if I’m wrong – SK alternates fast and slow breathing – so the slow cycles may infact balance the harmful effects of rapid breathing.”
Yes. Slow cycles MAY in fact balance the harmful effects of rapid breathing. Or MAY BE NOT.
We don’t really know how Ravi Shankar arrived at this particular rhythm. One thing is certain that it was NOT a result of any research done by Ravi Shankar. It was revealed to him. Moreover if you are an old timer you must have noticed that that rhythm also keeps on changing — esp. in live kriyas. These changed rhythms during live kriyas are revealed to Ravi on the spot.
Personally I believe offering a vigorous breathing technique like SK in such an indiscriminate manner, that too without talking about its side effects is not only irresponsible but most unethical also..
Taking advantage of psychological laws – Serve anything as secret and people associate value with it. There is nothing about Yoga and Pranayama which has not been mentioned in Vedas so its better to go back to Vedic wisdom instead.
Master AD is really consistently answering queries of affected people at http://agyaatdarshan.wordpress.com/ and i feel this can be best service to humanity.
Manju
” She was normal before SK and now a big votary of the efficacy of this technique but she couldnt see her own condition which was so obvious for everyone else. She was like a drug addict looking for her next high in her SK practise.”
@ Dr. Sudheendra.
Is this damage reversable? or is it permanent? Ramdev has warned against SK, calling it dangerous, but that was dismissed by AoLers
Ha ha ha ha ha AOL Rejects posting Sudarshan Kriya notes and downloads…
What a bunch of buffoons 🙂
If you don’t like AOL that’s fine…..But what’s the point of taking SK and posting it on-line? That’s not only illegal but it’s unethical.
But, what you mental midgets know about either?
SSRS weeds out the weak from AOL…
You all are Weak and Sick…
We wish you Well…
But Jacob,
The SK is taught by other gurus and even has whole classes of people practicing with some other Guru (whose name escapes me at the moment) in South India! So what? So Ham. It’s an ancient mantra, an ancient practice. It is not the invention of Ravi Shankar. Besides, I don’t see the practice posted here at all. But there are links for it all over the internet. Are you going to each link and blasting them? Good luck! My definition of weak and sick is people who follow after some man, dress like him in white, affect his accent and way of speaking, teach “his” teachings, and then follow none of them, beating each other up verbally and even physically behind the scenes. Get a clue, Jacob! AOL is a cult filled with weirdos, especially the senior teachers. Talk about weak and sick! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it will always be a pig.
SUPERBLY SAID.
not, you…i meant Jacob….
Anonymus…you are a pig. Its you who is building a anti Guruji cult..not AOL.
Funny that in Swami Sadyojatha’s letter Sri Sri is quoted saying something very similar to this: “This will filter the weak and we can identify our strong pillars.” Yet surely a genuine spiritual master, especially one who claims to be enlightened, would actually try to make the weak stronger by his/her guidance, and not try to “filter” them out?
The sad reality is that Art of Living does filter the weak from the strong, however not in the manner in which you claim. Rather, through all the courses and the various processes, it turns those followers who continue with the organization into sheep, makes them dependent on the organization and on Sri Sri, so that eventually they become too weak to leave. It is only those who have strength enough who can actually break free from the Art of Living spell. This is exactly how a cult works, and Art of Living is no different.
The good news is that through the efforts of these blogs many people are starting to wake up and see Art of Living for what it really is. And comments like yours only go to reinforce what we are saying here.
This forum is worthless…all you haters GET A LIFE.
Either hate AOL or do your kriya..you can’t do both
you rambling insolent freaks.
I have done the course. I am an engineer and a rational person, and I had very positive short and long term effects.
however you do have to put up with rambling idiots who talk bullshit for the first half of the day about how great ssrs is. I came here looking for some tutorials on the internet as to how to do it right. I dont want to pay again and I have forgotten the sequence and numbers of doing it.
Basically they have a good thing and they want to make someone a god out of it.
Tavish,
Congratulations on just taking the basic knowledge, which is ancient, and not owned by SSRS or anyone else, and getting the maximum out of it. You are lucky not to have had side effects from the Sudarshan Kriya, but there it is — you must have very strong lungs. I got very severe asthma after practicing for awhile, and also allergies. I never had these conditions before. My doctor, upon questioning, said not to do such breathing practices. You are also lucky not to have gotten involved in the organization or with SSRS. You would, sadly, understand what this and other blogs are about — the terrible slow slide into the pit called Art of Living. Some of the points in the basic course are truly wonderful, since they exist in many scriptures anyhow. They are not the property of AOL, but AOL charges for them. The TM movement also made it illegal for teachers to tell the mantras, although they are ancient sanskrit mantras, available in all the texts! And SSRS was a disciple of TM’s leader. This is just what happens when knowledge becomes Guru Business and greed takes over. One of the basic points I strong disagree with is that Expectations Lessen the Joy. This point, it seems to me, is coming from a place of very low self-esteem, or from a person who was severely disappointed over and over again in life (SSRS in his youth?) It’s basically a defeatist’s attitude that he encourages. Don’t expect much and you’ll be pleased with the little you may get. This sort of thing. It’s my opinion that if we don’t aim high, we don’t accomplish much. If we don’t have the expectation that things will be fine, that we will excel, how will we progress? So that point is BS to my mind. I’ve just never found it to be true, except in the case of expecting SSRS to be a real master, rather than a money collector and fraud, disguised as a guru.
I believe that the points used to be here but the blogmaster(s?) were being sued by Art of Living and so all that material was taken down. The link for MP3 for SK exists all over the internet. Just google around and you’ll find it if you really want to do it.
“It’s basically a defeatist’s attitude that he encourages”
This guy is so stupid. He got the course point wrong. They never tell you have no expectation(this is impossible), or have low expectations . Did they tell you to have no expectation?
The course point tells you to be ‘aware’ of the expectation and keep doing your work. Lack of awareness about the expectation will create only misery and feverishness caused by lack of awareness of the expectation will not let you give your 100% effort.
It is not a defeatist attitude. It is same as to what Krishna told Arjuna, “Karmanye Vadhikaraste Ma Phaleshu Kadachana “
If you’ve done the course, mine took 6 days, you should know for sure that the only thing you need is BREATHE!!!
Well I feel that everyone has their view point for everything, including art of living. I have seen so many organization and what I can conclude is every organization has it flaws and good points. So does art of living. I don’t agree that they don’t have anything good, they are doing good work also, so appreciate that and what you don’t like you are free to express. Do try other organization as everyone is seeking a spiritual journey, because that is the ultimate purpose of life. On this blog you can also suggest if not art of living which other organization people can try for their quest for spiritual journey as I guess that is the motive along with telling the secrets of Aol organization which i don’t know how true are they because I will see first on my own and then can comment.
People can try Vipasana meditation in Pune, Brahma Kumaris and lot of other if they are Hindu, or else other organization where we can know the purpose of life and can get liberated. Bhagwad Gita is one of the best scripture I have found, but then don’t get stuck and waste time only in letting down an organization that doesn’t mean stop writing on blog but do encourage people for their spiritual journey.
Lastly wish you all the best for what purpose you are writing this. I know only one thing truth shall always win, that is what is told in Gita. I would not build any opinion about any organization without being into it or without meeting SriSri in person. I found Sister Shivani very good from Brahma Kumaris and few others. I love listening to bhajans of Art of living and listening to Sri Sri on tv.
God bless you all. So please add alternative source where people can go other than aol for seek of their journey:)
Dear Sadistic mind of the creator of the blog,
may peace be within you soon; Before your hyperactive running about to earn a quick buck(by unsuccessfully distributing the ‘so called’ notes), can land the associated body in trouble.
You make me laugh! S.K is really something, if it can make notorious minds like you meditate or atleast think about meditation, day in and day out!…
One day shall see the transformation within you..Amen!
“What you put your attention on grows strong in your life.”
“What you see you become.”
quotes from Maharishi Maheshi Yogi (your own master’s guru, in case he didn’t tell you)
Careful, there, Kriti Khurana, or you will become like the blogmaster, putting so much attention on him/her :-))
I downloaded the long kriya file, burned it to a disk and tried to play it on my CD player. The CD player starting making funny noises and wouldn’t work any more!
Anyway, if you want to do long kriya, go do it in a group according to the instructions of the guru who is the source of this teaching. If you want someone to learn kriya, have them take a course. You guys are bad disciples. Bitching and moaning because your -ex-guru didn’t behave in a way that gratified your ego. If you want to move on, then move on. But all this complaining is silliness.
why hyperventilation is ignored
is it playing any role in relieving stress or boosting confidence
There r many Quakes in India causing illusions in the mind of People is it real or like another Q…………..
To the author of this blog : you’re brave man . respect for you !
very fun blog, I wish you good luck in your next life as a worm