They Told Me Guruji Knows, Guruji Will Fix It – He Didn’t
by freeagaiin
As i went through the process of leaving AOL, i wasn’t that angry, but now i really am. Its the fact that we have all had a similar experience and have decided to speak up, because there was actually no avenue within AOL to actually speak out and be taken seriously. And here we are creating our own space to speak, to interact, and to decide how we want to move forward (with most seeking to make a change and ideally prevent others from spending unnecessary sums of money, and preventing abuse of any kind) and here we have AOL’ers who in the first instance would not even spend five minutes to listen to someone who was facing these thing, come here in our space and put people down.
Enough is enough!! My experience was horrendous by my terms. And i still feel harassed by AOl’ers who have no respect for my choice to leave and continue to spam me.
I am a seeker, i am not a doormat. I will continue on my path. The knowledge that was handed down to me, is no different from the knowledge that i can find in books. I am not here to hand over my religion and my culture to a organisation that is clearly not a “one world family” for i saw my religion ridiculed within the organisaiton. I am here to find my middle road, that will ensure that i continue to honor my responsibilities in the working world, with my relationships, and with my spiritual world.
I do not wish to be a part of anything that ridicules people and their experiences, dehumanizes people and their feelings, and i actually goddam OBJECT to AOLER’S coming on to this site, which has been created by some very brave, courageous people who have such empathy and understanding of the experiences, and have set up a means for people globally to heal.
I HAVE NOT GONE TO AN AOL SITE TO POST CRAP ABOUT THEIR VIEWS. I HAVE COME TO A SITE THAT CATERS FOR ME TO POST MY VIEWS AND TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES – WHY ????
Because AOL could not spend Five minutes to just hear me. And when i spoke, they ridiculed my experience, they brushed it under the carpet. And they said Guruji will fix it. And i waited. And guruji did not fix it. I know of so many others who went through a similar experience to me. And were told the same thing _ GURUJI knows, Guruji will fix it.
He didn’t.
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Beyond The Art of Living 
So….What really happened?
Good to hear from you.. so tell us what happened with you.
Read my post – Abused and Discarded – did you have similar experience!! I hope not..
Though I am out of this fake spirituality but given a chance I would like to ask SSRS – how many times can he bless just one guy with different girls in just one life???
We all should be happy that its over, the worst is over, lets look forward to better days ahead, cleaner heart, clean soul n clean acts.. a more spiritual life.
God bless all
@freeagain
Well said and I back you completely. I too am taken aback by the way the exes are treated by those still in the org. The way they come here and out and out ABUSE the exes is really sad to watch.
The fact is your cult and mine (Prem Rawat Cult) really dont care about people in general which is why there is never any open, two sided communication. If theres a problem in your sadhana, well its your fault – ALWAYS. And thats it, they shut people out completeley. This is abusive ofcourse, but you cant ever reason with the cult or psychopathic cult leaders.
@Mac i have detailed the worst part of my experience in my post Stand Up for yourself or End up falling
@everyone else speak up and speak out against the trespass to our freedom here!
After reading all of these things and taking from my previous experience as a volunteer, I find it very difficult to believe that AOL is really making the impact globally they claim. Sure, there are always people who are drawn to yogic breathing and especially people in Western countries are usually too ignorant of the actual practices to know better than to try AOL. But when I worked so diligently to get people to come to a function, I saw the real responses to the organization. People are, in general, smarter than we give them credit for.
I, unfortunately, was one of the Westerners who was ignorant and wanted to see what the whole AOL thing was about. I also wanted to be around other vegetarians, as I have practiced vegetarianism on my own for the last 11 years. My initial response was to avoid the organization and Basic Course all together, but as many of you have pointed out, the recruiters are relentless.
I have seen in the Bible Belt that people know immediately that there is a cult in their midst. However, coming to the Bible Belt is like herd immunity against organizations like this. So, really, unless it is in an area where people are more open minded (i.e. CA), saying Ravi Shankar is one of the five most influential people in India means very little to people who don’t know who he is. I had never heard of him until a certain individual introduced me, and I am an avid reader of BBC and CNN, and am also very involved in the Indian community. If he really was that important, these channels would have covered the doings of AOL. I think that in itself says a lot.
wonder why he didn’t aim for Oprah?
You’re going to love this:
http://esatsangaol.blogspot.com/2011/01/fw-esatsang-esatsang-digest-for-jan-2.html
Item no. 2, posted by you’ll never guess who?
🙂
don’t these guys ever stop? now he’s hankering for an oprah show sice no nobel for him. ravi must have such a restless mind, which is only natural when there is so much aspiration. and not getting prizes he so badly wants, not getting enough media attention that he seeks, not having top notch politicans in his fold, he would also be agitated. because ambitions are not met with. if the guru is chasing such worldly things, how is he capable of imparting spiritual knowledge? he is a beggar himself, how is he going to ever be giving anything to anyone, he is not capable. he is like anyone of us, only bigger dreams. this whole org has such a disgusting approach- only media attention.
We should forward that email to the Oprah show and make them aware of this attempt to manipulate.
@ dayalu: since everyone has time to read your emails….also send it to barak obama , barbara bush , paris hilton and dick cheney
Yes, good point, Harshal, and I know for a fact that a link to this blog and Klim’s blog was indeed sent to VP Joe Biden’s office after it was realized that he spoke at an AOL event. He should know what kind of organization he is representing and opening doors for. And the person did received a thank you for the e-mail and it was not robo. :-))Hahaha Harshal. Go for Oprah.
Yeah, right.
But don’t try to send your email to SSRS because He is busy dispensing his dirty water to Harshal for drinking.
Sure, when you attempt to influence them, we’ll certainly do so. Thanks!
“And the person did received a thank you for the e-mail and it was not robo”-
Congratulations! What an achievement in life for your friend!
@Harshal:
“Congratulations! What an achievement in life for your friend!”
But this achievement is nothing in comparison to yours when you got the opportunity to drink your master’s body fluids directly through His sacred orifices!
BTW, was it önce-in-a-life-time opportunity or you get to reach the tap whenever you meet Him?
I am constantly amazed by the negative reactions to this blog when on a simplistic level all we are doing is asking folks to take a 360 degree view of the whole AOL phenomenon. In fact, considering that we are helping people see more of the AOL movement that the so called regular followers, technically we are closer to AOL than the so labelled AOL devotees.
All we are recommending and promoting here is “increased critical reasoning” among the followers by encouraging the questioning and therefore deeper understanding of what is told to them by the so labelled experts. Rather than simply accepting what such experts suggest without a second thought. Such an ideal—that of informing ourselves, rather than relying upon authority to do the thinking for us is the very foundation required for participating in a peaceful co-existence.
AOL’s inherent drive is convert everybody to AOL, as they believe that this is the only way we can all exist peacefully. Nothing to beat this for sheer hypocrisy (Whatever happened to harmony in diversity ??). The question is how diverse is diverse ???. There is only a certain amount of diversity that is allowed (read permissible, and permitted by whom ?, none other than the great SSRS). Beyond that allowable point its not diversity any more, its adversity. Hence if we sense that it is adverse then its divorce (the law is bought in).
Followers should participate in guiding and structuring policy and action. And this requires critical reasoning.
On a very concrete level, our call is for all involved to think critically—rather than absent-mindedly accepting the declarations of the so called experts. This is so necessary to prevent the abuse of power, which may be overt or covert, intended or unintended.
To illustrate the point, an extreme parallel example is the (in)famous Milgram conclusions. Milgram’s experiment showed how uncritical acceptance of authority can lead to very problematic behavior. Milgram conducted these experiments in order to determine how the population of Germany could allow the Nazis to kill six million people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
All pro Sudarshan Kriya reports are produced by AOL devotees and practitioners. They have a vested interest already….this is a conflict of interest. Its like the Pharma companies funding free testing in the malls.